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Old 12-05-2011, 09:04 AM   #31
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If every game counts, LSU should already be a national champion

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Alabama lost to LSU in Tuscaloosa on Nov. 5. You can bring up how Alabama gained more yards than LSU, or how the Crimson Tide's kicking game went awry, or how the refs blew an interception in LSU's favor (no, they didn't).

Bottom line: LSU beat Alabama.

That doesn't preclude Alabama from having another shot in New Orleans. But it shouldn't make Jan. 9 more important than the teams' entire body of work. It shouldn't make us forget that we didn't watch this game once before.
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The postseason matters more than the regular season. This is a 1 game playoff to determine the national champion. That said, it's still only the 2nd worst way to determine a national champion. (The worst being a purely subjective vote, which seems to be what the author of that article likes.)
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I thought OSU earned their shot, but we'll just have to beat Bama again now.




this x 1000.


if the situation were reversed and Bama was in our shoes, they'd still be :crying: about how they shouldn't have to play us again.. We're not Bama.. So we just have to go out and take care of business one more time, as it seems we've been asked to do for every one of the 13 weeks we've played, just continue to have to prove ourselves over and over, and over again.
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this x 1000.


if the situation were reversed and Bama was in our shoes, they'd still be :crying: about how they shouldn't have to play us again.. We're not Bama.. So we just have to go out and take care of business one more time, as it seems we've been asked to do for every one of the 13 weeks we've played, just continue to have to prove ourselves over and over, and over again.
Maybe you should go back a read this thread again because it's nothing but LSU fans crying about having to play Bama again. Funny thing how blind people are when it comes to their own team. I've said time and time again I don't like the situation because IF Bama should win they will never get recognized as the true champion and that would be fair if I'm being totally honest.
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For everyone that wants a playoff (and that includes me), the likely outcome would have been a rematch between LSU & Alabama. Granted, you would have given OSU and Stanford a chance to play it out on the field, but this would have been a very real and likely possibility.

So honestly, as an LSU fan, it doesn't matter to me. As a fan, I take the attitude my team has taken all year, we'll play anybody, anywhere, for any reason and beat them. So let's just go out and beat bama again, this time more convincingly.

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Should be exciting!!

Well, stevedrum? Let's hear your best smack...
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I don't agree with this. Oh well. Time to whip the **** out of Bama.
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Be honest: this has been a long time coming. For half a decade other the college football conferences have not provided a sufficient enough challenge to the contender presented by the SEC. The BCS is just doing in 2011 what it should have been done a long time ago.
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I hear what you're saying, but as an avid LSU fan who's not happy about this either, I can't argue with the results.

I have no question that you are the second best team in the country. The system was designed for #1 versus #2. You're #2.

Does anyone really think OSU would beat Bama in a head-to-head?
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The BCS got it right.
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Not this LSU fan...I'm like the Honey Badger I don't give a ...... who they play..






doesn't seem like much crying to me, stevedrum


it is, indeed, funny how some people like yourself can see what you want to see.
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and by the way-- complaining about how screwed up the system is while still acknowledging that the only thing left to do is go out and beat Bama again, are not mutually exclusive concepts.
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Really? 6 posts out of a 3 page thread that's your proof?
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The pressure is on Saban.

Miles has already shown he can beat Saban and with consistency and on both fields.

Saban has all the world on his shoulder. Everyone knows LSU deserves the spot. The question is whether Saban deserves it. Saban has the task of proving to everyone that he deserves to be there over Oklahoma State.

If Saban fails, it will be obvious that he's not who everyone thought he was. He is not a miracle worker.
If Saban wins, he can say he beat LSU once in the past 3 meetings.
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The pressure is on Saban.

Miles has already shown he can beat Saban and with consistency and on both fields.

Saban has all the world on his shoulder. Everyone knows LSU deserves the spot. The question is whether Saban deserves it. Saban has the task of proving to everyone that he deserves to be there over Oklahoma State.

If Saban fails, it will be obvious that he's not who everyone thought he was. He is not a miracle worker.
If Saban wins, he can say he beat LSU once in the past 3 meetings.
If Saban wins he will hoist the crystal trophy and be BCS champ, i don't see any downside to that.
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If Saban fails, it will be obvious that his team is who we thought they were. They're not better than LSU.

If Saban wins, he can say he is the coach of a national championship team for 2 of the past 3 years.
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Does anyone really think OSU would beat Bama in a head-to-head?
There's the real point, and I certainly don't think they could, nor could they beat LSU.

I was amused when their coach said, "Do people want a 9-6 game or a 39-36 game?" His team wouldn't score anywhere near 36 points. He should have said something more like 39-6 because his team doesn't play defense very well and we have shown against Oregon and Arkansas that our defense can slow down (and flat out stop) the highest octane offense anyone can throw at us.

No, IMHO, Ok. St. didn't make it because coaches and sports writers across the country couldn't imagine a realistic scenario where Ok. St. could beat either team.
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There's the real point, and I certainly don't think they could, nor could they beat LSU.







... and that is precisely the problem with the BCS-- it should not matter what you, I, Kirk Herbstreit, or my Grandmother "thinks" would happen... Did you think that the New York Giants could beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl a couple yrs back?? If so, then you are part of a teeny-tiny fraction of America... My point is (and don't anyone misinterpret my post as 'whining' about playing Bama, i'm looking forward to it, bring them on)-- but a system that relies on what people 'think' might happen, or that relies on 'eyeball tests' is pretty much a fraudulent system.
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There's the real point, and I certainly don't think they could, nor could they beat LSU.

I was amused when their coach said, "Do people want a 9-6 game or a 39-36 game?" His team wouldn't score anywhere near 36 points. He should have said something more like 39-6 because his team doesn't play defense very well and we have shown against Oregon and Arkansas that our defense can slow down (and flat out stop) the highest octane offense anyone can throw at us.

No, IMHO, Ok. St. didn't make it because coaches and sports writers across the country couldn't imagine a realistic scenario where Ok. St. could beat either team.
We'll never know. OSU's one loss was a fluke IMHO. The missed FG should have been reviewed. In any case, the system as is sucks. At the least, the top 3 or 4 teams should play in a playoffs. Would have loved to see OSU play Bama, then winner takes on LSU. That would make a lot more sense than what's actually happening.
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We'll never know. OSU's one loss was a fluke IMHO. The missed FG should have been reviewed. In any case, the system as is sucks. At the least, the top 3 or 4 teams should play in a playoffs. Would have loved to see OSU play Bama, then winner takes on LSU. That would make a lot more sense than what's actually happening.
And Bama lost because of four missed FG's. At the end of the day Bama lost to the best team. OSU lost to an unranked garbage team.

That made the difference.

I agree, a +1 game is the solution here. We don't need a 16 game playoff. The BCS gets it close enough to go with a 4 team playoff. I have no idea why this hasn't happened yet.
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