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Old 12-05-2011, 07:07 PM   #71
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so how do you feel about the Panthers and the Falcons? Have you been watching them for a long time? how about the Rams and the 49ers, if you are old enough to remember the NFC West? I'm not trying to stir the ****, i'm genuinely trying to figure out what the difference is.
There are several reasons.

A) These are unpaid kids, not millionaire athletes and are thus seen differently.

B) We don't all root for LSU, who can win a NC every year. MSU isn't going to the BCS game ever so I chose to root for the SEC during bowl season and in the BCSCG. Helps up my entertainment value.

C) Regional pride does play a part and since it's not a four team division setup with a playoff like the NFL and the schools in the SEC West are very close together, it's just different for me then the NFL.
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so how do you feel about the Panthers and the Falcons? Have you been watching them for a long time? how about the Rams and the 49ers, if you are old enough to remember the NFC West? I'm not trying to stir the ****, i'm genuinely trying to figure out what the difference is.
Hate them all, even still hate the Rams and 49ers, but especially hate the Falcons going way back.
Been watching since the Archie Manning days so yes i grew up watching all those division rival games.

Ill just say the college game gives off a different vibe, the players aren't paid professionals ( unless you go to Auburn LOL ).
They are students athletes at a university and the SEC schools are great at sports and football especially.
How many division 1 football teams? 120 or so, vs 32 pro teams.
The fact that the 12 SEC football teams have accomplished so much over the years gives me pride since they are from my part of the country.

I have relatives in Ohio that are huge OSU fans, but when they met LSU in the big game a few years ago i was rooting for LSU, i had heard about how bad Bennie Wells and Troy Smith were gone school LSU in that game, they just didn't know what they were messing with.
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The pressure is on Alabama in this game, as strange as that sounds. LSU already beat Alabama once this year and if LSU loses, their season is not a total failure due to being SEC Champs. However, Alabama's season would be a total failure if LSU beat them.

Also, LSU players and coaches are gonna be hearing how Alabama beat themselves and how LSU didnt really beat Alabama leading up to the game. A lot of people are gonna be picking Alabama to win this game too.

It looks like LSU is opening up as 1 point favorites and that # could go -/+ as we go forward in the coming weeks and it wont shock me if Alabama is actually favored before its all said and done.
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The pressure is on Alabama in this game, as strange as that sounds. LSU already beat Alabama once this year and if LSU loses, their season is not a total failure due to being SEC Champs. However, Alabama's season would be a total failure if LSU beat them.

Also, LSU players and coaches are gonna be hearing how Alabama beat themselves and how LSU didnt really beat Alabama leading up to the game. A lot of people are gonna be picking Alabama to win this game too.

It looks like LSU is opening up as 1 point favorites and that # could go -/+ as we go forward in the coming weeks and it wont shock me if Alabama is actually favored before its all said and done.
BS. The pressure is equal and LSU has just as much to lose as Alabama. I can't believe anyone would believe this garbage. Also, the betting public will dictate the betting line. It always has for those of you who don't know how the sportsbook operates. If LSU is favored by one, well if people start laying money on Alabama that line will shrink.
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BS. The pressure is equal and LSU has just as much to lose as Alabama. I can't believe anyone would believe this garbage. Also, the betting public will dictate the betting line. It always has for those of you who don't know how the sportsbook operates. If LSU is favored by one, well if people start laying money on Alabama that line will shrink.
How can you say the pressure is equal for a team that has already beat the other team in the same year? Nick Saban and Alabama will have more pressure going into this game, period.

LSU has already proved that they can beat Alabama. Alabama on the other hand, has not.
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... and that is precisely the problem with the BCS-- it should not matter what you, I, Kirk Herbstreit, or my Grandmother "thinks" would happen... Did you think that the New York Giants could beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl a couple yrs back?? If so, then you are part of a teeny-tiny fraction of America... My point is (and don't anyone misinterpret my post as 'whining' about playing Bama, i'm looking forward to it, bring them on)-- but a system that relies on what people 'think' might happen, or that relies on 'eyeball tests' is pretty much a fraudulent system.
This how it's been done in college football since, uh, forever.
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Why does Penn State not "count" this year yet they are a program that beat LSU less then a year ago? Obviously, a lot of those players are still there.
I don't have the numbers, that season Penn State was a very senior-heavy team. The following season the team looked and played a lot differently. Two years later and it's a different team altogether.
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I don't have the numbers, that season Penn State was a very senior-heavy team. The following season the team looked and played a lot differently. Two years later and it's a different team altogether.
You're probably right.

Still, if some are going to say Penn State doesn't count this year presumably because of their easy schedule to get to 9-3, I think you'd have to say the same thing about OSU's win over KSU, who's record was a complete mirage as well.
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Why does Penn State not "count" this year yet they are a program that beat LSU less then a year ago? Obviously, a lot of those players are still there.
they beat LSU two years ago on an absolutely pathetic excuse for a football field. the speed advantage was negated due to the conditions. besides.. that penn state team is not the same as the one this year and the LSU team that year was nowhere close to the LSU team this year. so again.. what does penn state two years ago have to do with right now? and why does a certain game against LSU carry any relevance in a case talking about alabama?
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they beat LSU two years ago on an absolutely pathetic excuse for a football field. the speed advantage was negated due to the conditions. besides.. that penn state team is not the same as the one this year and the LSU team that year was nowhere close to the LSU team this year. so again.. what does penn state two years ago have to do with right now? and why does a certain game against LSU carry any relevance in a case talking about alabama?
Did you completely miss the post I was responding to?

Maybe you should of paid attention to that.
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Did you completely miss the post I was responding to?

Maybe you should of paid attention to that.
you tried to boost the merit of alabama's win over penn state this year by bringing up a game that happened two years ago and implying that it's still a very similar team. that's horrible logic and that's what i was replying to. is there anything else i need to make clear for you?
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How can you say the pressure is equal for a team that has already beat the other team in the same year? Nick Saban and Alabama will have more pressure going into this game, period.

LSU has already proved that they can beat Alabama. Alabama on the other hand, has not.
Are you serious? Its a winner take all game for one. Alabama is the underdog for two. And frankly have you ever heard how much pressure the Patriots players felt when they were 18-0 to finish the season undefeated? Its intoxicating they said.

The pressure is equal my friend. Don't buy into that hype that Alabama has something more to prove any more then LSU does.
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you tried to boost the merit of alabama's win over penn state this year by bringing up a game that happened two years ago and implying that it's still a very similar team. that's horrible logic and that's what i was replying to. is there anything else i need to make clear for you?
Well, that team that beat LSU was what? 9-3? 10-2? Something like that. This year's is 9-3. What's the huge difference that makes them not count this year as a good win? I realize the excuses about the field apply here but PSU still plays in the Big 10 just like they did that year.

Regardless, that was an afterthought one liner after the main point of my post that had nothing to do with LSU nor mentioned them.

PSU isn't a garbage program and is no less of a win then OSU's win over KSU.

The entire discussion was started by the fact that someone basically said the PSU win wasn't a good win. Of course it was a good win.
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