N/S College Football gets 4-team playoff!

[DomePatrol2005]

What about conference championships? Will schools still have to compete in those before the playoffs like how lsu got screwed into the extra game last year?

[efil4stnias]

Originally Posted by Danneaux

Bama would have won it all anyway, based on absolutely dominating one of the finest LSU teams I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah Jordan Jefferson was good, wasn't he?


Ur welcome. ( for LSU playing that mindless, non-passing, non-defense reading, first read then tuck QB)

[MLU]

LSU will now be the first 3-loss team to win the BCS Championship.

[THENZA]

Originally Posted by efil4stnias

Yeah Jordan Jefferson was good, wasn't he?


Ur welcome. ( for LSU playing that mindless, non-passing, non-defense reading, first read then tuck QB)

Can we make some sort of SR rule that says we don't mention that name ever again?

[crescentcityboi]

Originally Posted by THENZA

Can we make some sort of SR rule that says we don't mention that name ever again?

There's really no need to mention his name, unless it is in jest. And if the joke isn't funny...you get thrown on SR probation for the first offense. 2nd offense, ban.

[jbourque]

Originally Posted by whodatjoe

2013 or 14?

The news story I saw when they were proposing the playoff system said 2014.

[moe1967]

Originally Posted by Danneaux

Bama would have won it all anyway, based on absolutely dominating one of the finest LSU teams I've ever seen in my life.

I'm a life long, die-hard LSU fan. But I'm man enough to admit that you are right.

Bama's lethal defense was waayyyy too much for our QBs and coaches.

Flame away fellow LSU fans, but I call it like I see it.

[Saint Matthew]

Originally Posted by moe1967

I'm a life long, die-hard LSU fan. But I'm man enough to admit that you are right.

Bama's lethal defense was waayyyy too much for our QBs and coaches.

Flame away fellow LSU fans, but I call it like I see it.

And i'm a Bama fan and LSU laid an egg in that game. As we talked about months ago, something was up in that game. LSU was too good to just fall completely apart, awesome Bama team or not. I have a lot of respect for Les Miles and wish the game had been more competitive, just with the same result. :-)

The only good thing for non-Bama fans to come out of that game is that it was such a boring game that it helped spur this change by the people running the BCS. Playoffs FTW!

[THENZA]

Originally Posted by Saint Matthew

And i'm a Bama fan and LSU laid an egg in that game. As we talked about months ago, something was up in that game. LSU was too good to just fall completely apart, awesome Bama team or not. I have a lot of respect for Les Miles and wish the game had been more competitive, just with the same result. :-)

The only good thing for non-Bama fans to come out of that game is that it was such a boring game that it helped spur this change by the people running the BCS. Playoffs FTW!

So, in a sense, what you are saying is that Les Miles is the most important man in college football.

Reminds me of an episode of Futurama where Fry is called the most important man in the universe because his brain is defective and cannot be controlled by alien invaders intent on destroying existence.

Les Miles has, through sheer incompetence in the Championship game, changed the landscape of college football.

[tenordas]

Originally Posted by Danneaux

Bama would have won it all anyway, based on absolutely dominating one of the finest LSU teams I've ever seen in my life.

I agree...but wait until you see this year's LSU team. The same dominance on defense coupled with an offense that actually features a QB who can play the game. Scary good is what I expect...

[AgentJRad]

Boise and TCU will finally realize their dream of getting handled by the SEC.

[Guido Merkins]

It's a baby step. They should have come out with a 8 team playoff with the goal to eventually get to 16 teams. All they've really done is a plus 1.

8 would give you the conference champions of each of the big conferences with some at large teams.

16 would give you EVERY conference champion plus some at large teams.

By doing it this way, you've taken the human element more out of it. If you win your conference, you are in. Then you have a committee decide the at large teams. Like basketball. 4 teams means they are still going to use the BCS forumla which is a load of crap. As much as possible, it needs to be out of the hands of the polls and computers.

[VVextreme]

Originally Posted by Guido Merkins

It's a baby step. They should have come out with a 8 team playoff with the goal to eventually get to 16 teams. All they've really done is a plus 1.

8 would give you the conference champions of each of the big conferences with some at large teams.

16 would give you EVERY conference champion plus some at large teams.

By doing it this way, you've taken the human element more out of it. If you win your conference, you are in. Then you have a committee decide the at large teams. Like basketball. 4 teams means they are still going to use the BCS forumla which is a load of crap. As much as possible, it needs to be out of the hands of the polls and computers.

Here's my thing about expanding the field too far... how would you feel the first time a 3 loss or 4 loss team actually wins the darn thing? Honestly, I'm still having a hard enough time getting over the fact that we beat Alabama on their home field, etc yet lost the national championship to them. The only thing that makes it tolerable is the fact that they straight up whipped our fannys and I gotta give them credit for it.

The difference between #1 and #16 is huuuuuge, but eventually a #16 will get lucky and win it all. It's just going to happen. The difference between #1 and #4 will normally be pretty close. I don't want a 16 team playoff, but think an 8 team playoff is worth considering. Still a pretty good variance, but not sure they are worthy. However what I want to know is what will it take for the NCAA to OFFICIALLY acknowledge and declare a national champion! This not recognizing thing is just total B.S.! Sack up NCAA! Sack up!

Anyone got any ideas how to eliminate the conference championship game handicap for conference winners? I mean, Alabama getting to sit around for an extra week to heal, gameplan exclusively for LSU and practice just wasn't fair either. I really like the conference championship games, so don't want to eliminate them. If we increase it to a 4 team or 8 team playoff, then we're going to see this scenario happen more and more often... the only thing I can think of is force any non-championship, play-off eligible teams to duke it out for the right to enter into the playoffs during conference championship week. It's sort of an artificial way to extend the playoffs during years that this might be an issue. You'll get a ton more elite games out of this as you'll always have to assume the highest ranked team will lose the conference championship game, but if #1, #2, #3 and #4 all happen to be conference champions... then all non-championship games played that week would just be like a second bowl game and an extra cash cow. I think everybody would win in that scenario. There would have to be some extra tweaking, but you get the gist. Thoughts?

[Guido Merkins]

Originally Posted by VVextreme

Here's my thing about expanding the field too far... how would you feel the first time a 3 loss or 4 loss team actually wins the darn thing? Honestly, I'm still having a hard enough time getting over the fact that we beat Alabama on their home field, etc yet lost the national championship to them. The only thing that makes it tolerable is the fact that they straight up whipped our fannys and I gotta give them credit for it.

The difference between #1 and #16 is huuuuuge, but eventually a #16 will get lucky and win it all. It's just going to happen. The difference between #1 and #4 will normally be pretty close. I don't want a 16 team playoff, but think an 8 team playoff is worth considering. Still a pretty good variance, but not sure they are worthy. However what I want to know is what will it take for the NCAA to OFFICIALLY acknowledge and declare a national champion! This not recognizing thing is just total B.S.! Sack up NCAA! Sack up!

Anyone got any ideas how to eliminate the conference championship game handicap for conference winners? I mean, Alabama getting to sit around for an extra week to heal, gameplan exclusively for LSU and practice just wasn't fair either. I really like the conference championship games, so don't want to eliminate them. If we increase it to a 4 team or 8 team playoff, then we're going to see this scenario happen more and more often... the only thing I can think of is force any non-championship, play-off eligible teams to duke it out for the right to enter into the playoffs during conference championship week. It's sort of an artificial way to extend the playoffs during years that this might be an issue. You'll get a ton more elite games out of this as you'll always have to assume the highest ranked team will lose the conference championship game, but if #1, #2, #3 and #4 all happen to be conference champions... then all non-championship games played that week would just be like a second bowl game and an extra cash cow. I think everybody would win in that scenario. There would have to be some extra tweaking, but you get the gist. Thoughts?

No other sport considers these things a problem. College football fans are conditioned to buy the BS that you can actually determine the "best team." You can't. It's an illusion. The only way you can determine who is the best team is to have everybody play everybody else, which is impossible.

At the end of the year, you have a Champion. That's the best you are going to get. Sometimes the perceived best team ends up being the Champion, like Kentucky in basketball. Sometimes, some other team gets hot and wins it all, like UConn last year. Either way, it's the best you can do.

It's also better because everybody has a chance and there won't be any whining at the end.

[VVextreme]

Originally Posted by Guido Merkins

No other sport considers these things a problem. College football fans are conditioned to buy the BS that you can actually determine the "best team." You can't. It's an illusion. The only way you can determine who is the best team is to have everybody play everybody else, which is impossible.

At the end of the year, you have a Champion. That's the best you are going to get. Sometimes the perceived best team ends up being the Champion, like Kentucky in basketball. Sometimes, some other team gets hot and wins it all, like UConn last year. Either way, it's the best you can do.

It's also better because everybody has a chance and there won't be any whining at the end.

No other sport plays only 12 regular season games either, so not completely comparable. The question is what's best for the sport of football.

Since we are discussing football, I like the logistics for the plus-1 model (or at most) the 8-team play-off. I'd like to see how that plays out prior to expanding further. It's definitely better to expand slowly than to expand to far, only to have to retract.

But to be fair, I also believe that the existing NCAA field is too large. Does the 64th team in the country really have any business being in that tourney? But the money is there and it helps give the little guy some marketing, so I'm fine with that. The little guy is an appealing addition to that sport and I think everyone benefits as a result.