***NFL Draft Combine 2013 Thread***

[JackDiesel]

Originally Posted by NOFALCONS10

Which still makes him 27lbs lighter than Devin Taylor.

Your point is?

One is being projected as a 1st round pick while the other is a 3rd-4th rounder that put up bleh numbers across from the best defensive player in college football. I've even seen some suggesting Taylor should put on weight and play 3-4 end.

[NOFALCONS10]

Originally Posted by JackDiesel

Your point is?

One is being projected as a 1st round pick while the other is a 3rd-4th rounder that put up bleh numbers across from the best defensive player in college football. I've even seen some suggesting Taylor should put on weight and play 3-4 end.

what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?

[St.Fury]

Why don't they do these drills in pads and helmets? Wouldn't that give you a better indication of how they would perform on the field?

[Uk Saint]

TE's on.... could we find a late round TE to go with Jimmy?

Watch out for Travis Kelce he will go round 1-3 but he will be great at the next level IMO

[NOFALCONS10]

Im Going to be keeping a close eye on this guy at OLB


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[bornnraisedwhodat]

Originally Posted by St.Fury

Why don't they do these drills in pads and helmets? Wouldn't that give you a better indication of how they would perform on the field?

This is more about measuring athleticism

[ETWhoDat]

Originally Posted by NOFALCONS10

what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?

I like Devin Taylor, but Jordan is better. For the most part, players selected in the first round have better careers than those drafted in the later rounds. Obviously, as you have mentioned, there are EXCEPTIONS. Devin Taylor may end up being a great player, but I'd bank on Jordan being the better player in the end.

[duhonmark551]

Originally Posted by Uk Saint

TE's on.... could we find a late round TE to go with Jimmy?

Watch out for Travis Kelce he will go round 1-3 but he will be great at the next level IMO

I am interested to see how fast Vance McDonald from Rice is. He has strength, 31 reps. He might be a choice in the 5-6 rounds.

[NOFALCONS10]

Originally Posted by ETWhoDat

I like Devin Taylor, but Jordan is better. For the most part, players selected in the first round have better careers than those drafted in the later rounds. Obviously, as you have mentioned, there are EXCEPTIONS. Devin Taylor may end up being a great player, but I'd bank on Jordan being the better player in the end.

Look at our collection of talent on defense, the only first rounder to even write home about is Camerson Jordan. Will Smith might be our next best but he has been up and down his entire career and has been a liability against the run for a very large part of it.

Patrick Robinson
Malcom Jenkins
Sedrick Ellis
Will Smith

The majority of our defensive first rounders under Payton have been no better than mediocre at best, meanwhile players like Galette, Hicks, and Wilson are showing the most promise for the future. Considering what Hicks accomplished last year, can we honestly say that we missed out much compared to a player like Michael Brockers?

[ETWhoDat]

Originally Posted by NOFALCONS10

Look at our collection of talent on defense, the only first rounder to even write home about is Camerson Jordan. Will Smith might be our next best but he has been up and down his entire career and has been a liability against the run for a very large part of it.

Patrick Robinson
Malcom Jenkins
Sedrick Ellis
Will Smith

The majority of our defensive first rounders under Payton have been no better than mediocre at best, meanwhile players like Galette, Hicks, and Wilson are showing the most promise for the future. Considering what Hicks accomplished last year, can we honestly say that we missed out much compared to a player like Michael Brockers?

I agree, like I said, there are exceptions. But I don't think it is wise to pass on Jordan because Taylor MIGHT end up being as good. I mean Corey White is obviously no Darrelle Revis. Like I said, for the most part, players selected in the first are better than those selected in later rounds.

[JackDiesel]

Sharrif Floyd measured in with lil T-Rex arms, smallest among defensive linemen.

Originally Posted by NOFALCONS10

what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?

Jordan was used in coverage more than any other top OLB prospect. Of course his numbers won't be great.

But how is poor numbers playing across from Clowney not a red flag for you? I mean we all saw what playing across from Jared Allen did for Ray Edwards and it's a trend we see across football.

1st rounders tend to better than players drafted later in the draft. It's not always about talent; character concerns, talent of competition all play huge factors in where players get drafted.

Anyways they are two very different prospects, I just saw exactly no point in your comparison. Ansah to Taylor would have been much more logical.

[ETWhoDat]

In the past three NFL drafts, 26/41 pro bowlers were selected in the first round. That's 63% coming from round 1.

[NOFALCONS10]

Originally Posted by JackDiesel

Jordan was used in coverage more than any other top OLB prospect. Of course his numbers won't be great.

But how is poor numbers playing across from Clowney not a red flag for you? I mean we all saw what playing across from Jared Allen did for Ray Edwards and it's a trend we see across football.

1st rounders tend to better than players drafted later in the draft. It's not always about talent; character concerns, talent of competition all play huge factors in where players get drafted.

Anyways they are two very different prospects, I just saw exactly no point in your comparison. Ansah to Taylor would have been much more logical.

And how come Devin Taylor's best year was without Clowney in 2010?

Taylor Has showed elite movement skills for a prospect his size at the shrine game and I think that he could play 3-4 linebacker better than Jordan Could. He definitely showcased a much better punch controlling tackles than anything that I've ever seen from Jordan. For a team that gives up over 5.2 yards a carry on the ground I can't see how Jordan can even be in serious consideration for a 3-4 team at his height and weight.



But hey, people here love finesse players.

[NOFALCONS10]

Originally Posted by ETWhoDat

In the past three NFL drafts, 26/41 pro bowlers were selected in the first round. That's 63% coming from round 1.

Great, now how many pro bowl caliber first rounders do we have on this team?
Even Brees was a second rounder.


Also what is that defensive breakdown? Many 3-4 olb players like Brooks Reed, Connor Barwin, Sam Acho, Lamarr Woodley, James Harrison, Ahmad Brooks, Justin Houston, Cameron wake, Joey Porter were not first rounders.

[NOFALCONS10]

All I know is that is Pittsburgh has had the #1 defense each of the past two seasons, Not San Fransisco and Baltimore.

Pittsburgh has also had a top 3 run defense in 10 of the past 13 years.

If we want to achieve that level of consistent dominance one day, targeting players to improve our run defense is a good place to start.