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Old 02-23-2013, 11:18 AM   #29
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Thet didnt do any press conferences yesterday did they?
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Dion Jordan's weigh-in: 6'6 1/4" & 248lbs. His weight was a concern coming into the combine, but it looks like he has addressed it.

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Which still makes him 27lbs lighter than Devin Taylor.
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Which still makes him 27lbs lighter than Devin Taylor.
Your point is?

One is being projected as a 1st round pick while the other is a 3rd-4th rounder that put up bleh numbers across from the best defensive player in college football. I've even seen some suggesting Taylor should put on weight and play 3-4 end.
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Your point is?

One is being projected as a 1st round pick while the other is a 3rd-4th rounder that put up bleh numbers across from the best defensive player in college football. I've even seen some suggesting Taylor should put on weight and play 3-4 end.
what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?
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Why don't they do these drills in pads and helmets? Wouldn't that give you a better indication of how they would perform on the field?
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TE's on.... could we find a late round TE to go with Jimmy?

Watch out for Travis Kelce he will go round 1-3 but he will be great at the next level IMO
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Why don't they do these drills in pads and helmets? Wouldn't that give you a better indication of how they would perform on the field?
This is more about measuring athleticism

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what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?
I like Devin Taylor, but Jordan is better. For the most part, players selected in the first round have better careers than those drafted in the later rounds. Obviously, as you have mentioned, there are EXCEPTIONS. Devin Taylor may end up being a great player, but I'd bank on Jordan being the better player in the end.
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TE's on.... could we find a late round TE to go with Jimmy?

Watch out for Travis Kelce he will go round 1-3 but he will be great at the next level IMO
I am interested to see how fast Vance McDonald from Rice is. He has strength, 31 reps. He might be a choice in the 5-6 rounds.
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I like Devin Taylor, but Jordan is better. For the most part, players selected in the first round have better careers than those drafted in the later rounds. Obviously, as you have mentioned, there are EXCEPTIONS. Devin Taylor may end up being a great player, but I'd bank on Jordan being the better player in the end.

Look at our collection of talent on defense, the only first rounder to even write home about is Camerson Jordan. Will Smith might be our next best but he has been up and down his entire career and has been a liability against the run for a very large part of it.

Patrick Robinson
Malcom Jenkins
Sedrick Ellis
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The majority of our defensive first rounders under Payton have been no better than mediocre at best, meanwhile players like Galette, Hicks, and Wilson are showing the most promise for the future. Considering what Hicks accomplished last year, can we honestly say that we missed out much compared to a player like Michael Brockers?
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Look at our collection of talent on defense, the only first rounder to even write home about is Camerson Jordan. Will Smith might be our next best but he has been up and down his entire career and has been a liability against the run for a very large part of it.

Patrick Robinson
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The majority of our defensive first rounders under Payton have been no better than mediocre at best, meanwhile players like Galette, Hicks, and Wilson are showing the most promise for the future. Considering what Hicks accomplished last year, can we honestly say that we missed out much compared to a player like Michael Brockers?
I agree, like I said, there are exceptions. But I don't think it is wise to pass on Jordan because Taylor MIGHT end up being as good. I mean Corey White is obviously no Darrelle Revis. Like I said, for the most part, players selected in the first are better than those selected in later rounds.
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what mind blowing numbers did dion Jordan put up? ever? Compare the players, Taylor's output in sacks, Tfl, and tackles are right up there with and many are even better than Jordan's. Taylor even has more Passes defensed than Jordan. What's interesting is that Taylor's best year was 2010 before Clowney even got there.

Are you implying that being a projected 1st rounder = Guaranteed NFL Success? Do fourth and fifth rounders like Jhari Evans and Carl Nicks not outplay #1s?
Jordan was used in coverage more than any other top OLB prospect. Of course his numbers won't be great.

But how is poor numbers playing across from Clowney not a red flag for you? I mean we all saw what playing across from Jared Allen did for Ray Edwards and it's a trend we see across football.

1st rounders tend to better than players drafted later in the draft. It's not always about talent; character concerns, talent of competition all play huge factors in where players get drafted.

Anyways they are two very different prospects, I just saw exactly no point in your comparison. Ansah to Taylor would have been much more logical.
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