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Old 02-23-2013, 02:04 PM   #43
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Jordan was used in coverage more than any other top OLB prospect. Of course his numbers won't be great.

But how is poor numbers playing across from Clowney not a red flag for you? I mean we all saw what playing across from Jared Allen did for Ray Edwards and it's a trend we see across football.

1st rounders tend to better than players drafted later in the draft. It's not always about talent; character concerns, talent of competition all play huge factors in where players get drafted.

Anyways they are two very different prospects, I just saw exactly no point in your comparison. Ansah to Taylor would have been much more logical.
And how come Devin Taylor's best year was without Clowney in 2010?

Taylor Has showed elite movement skills for a prospect his size at the shrine game and I think that he could play 3-4 linebacker better than Jordan Could. He definitely showcased a much better punch controlling tackles than anything that I've ever seen from Jordan. For a team that gives up over 5.2 yards a carry on the ground I can't see how Jordan can even be in serious consideration for a 3-4 team at his height and weight.



But hey, people here love finesse players.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:15 PM   #44
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In the past three NFL drafts, 26/41 pro bowlers were selected in the first round. That's 63% coming from round 1.
Great, now how many pro bowl caliber first rounders do we have on this team?
Even Brees was a second rounder.


Also what is that defensive breakdown? Many 3-4 olb players like Brooks Reed, Connor Barwin, Sam Acho, Lamarr Woodley, James Harrison, Ahmad Brooks, Justin Houston, Cameron wake, Joey Porter were not first rounders.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:25 PM   #45
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All I know is that is Pittsburgh has had the #1 defense each of the past two seasons, Not San Fransisco and Baltimore.

Pittsburgh has also had a top 3 run defense in 10 of the past 13 years.

If we want to achieve that level of consistent dominance one day, targeting players to improve our run defense is a good place to start.
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anyone impressed today??
Lane Johnson is a fast athlete OL, and was good in the practice drills, very fluid movement. He is the same grade as Joeckel IMO.

I didn't see Eric Fisher, he must have skipped out.

If Johnson is there at 15 then he surely should be considered. He is also good trade bait if he slips to us.
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I highly doubt Lane, Fisher, or Luke make it out the top 10. Studs.

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QB, WO and RB's tommorow... interestig day even if it is compleatly irrelevent for us
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I was about to ask the same thing. I've been only able to catch bits and pieces this morning. Did Rob Ryan make the trip?

The one coach I saw was Reid. It will take a while to get used to seeing him in Chiefs gear.
At the moment there's no evidence that Loomis and Payton are actually there...

All the draft prospect meetings that the Saints have had so far occurred earlier elsewhere.

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Josh Boyd, DL, Mississippi State (EW)
Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall (SR)
Tyrone Goard, WR, Eastern Kentucky (EW)
Zaviar Gooden, LB, Missouri (SR)
Corey Grissom, DL, South Florida (SR)
Demontre Hurst, CB, Oklahoma (EW)
Zach Line, RB, SMU (EW)
TJ McDonald, DB, USC (SR)
Bradley McDougald, S, Kansas (EW)
Leon McFadden, DB, San Diego State (SR)
Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon (SR)
Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M (EW) (VINT)
Chris Pantale, TE, Boston College (EW)
Trent Steelman, WR, Army (EW)
Cooper Taylor, S, Richmond (EW)
Chase Thomas, LB, Stanford (SR)
Brandon Williams, DL, Missouri Southern (SR)
Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor (SR)
Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (SR)

None of these meetings have been at the combine.

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heard this rumor (asking if anyone else has heard this?) that jesse williams believes he can beat the BP record but his agent does not want him to attempt it. Fear of injury that would hurt his draft??

i like seeing record broken and as a Bama fan this is a shame
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heard this rumor (asking if anyone else has heard this?) that jesse williams believes he can beat the BP record but his agent does not want him to attempt it. Fear of injury that would hurt his draft??

i like seeing record broken and as a Bama fan this is a shame
I can run 35 mph but my agent doesn't like me running that fast because it makes the other players he represents look slow.

Why would an agent tell a player not to participate in a drill in which the player excels unless he was a sure fire top 10 pick? Williams has no more chance of getting injured than the other players doing the same.
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TE Vance McDonald put up some impressive numbers. He could be a 4th rounder if we decide to add to our offensive juggernaut.


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Lane Johnson is a fast athlete OL, and was good in the practice drills, very fluid movement. He is the same grade as Joeckel IMO.

I didn't see Eric Fisher, he must have skipped out.

If Johnson is there at 15 then he surely should be considered. He is also good trade bait if he slips to us.
I hope he is available and will be very happy if he is the choice. Even DJ Fluker. It makes a lot of draft sense to use your first on an offensive tackle, even for a right tackle.

For once, I think we can count the days of Strief as a starter, and also, we are on our best when we use 3 tackles in our elephant line, using the tackle as an extra tight end.

I do think, at this point that Johnson and Fluker are a safer bet then Mingo, Jones, Jordan, or the available corners.
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I give Te'o credit, he's handling questions with poise for a young guy caught up in a huge media circus.
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