2013 Second round Draft Pick

saint1966 · 12-12-2012, 09:55 AM

So there was some discussion if the Saints "played nice" during the 2012 season, the commisioner may return our 2013 second round pick. After this reversal on player suspensions, do you think our friend Roger will still consider returning our draft pick?? Something tells me we have no chance of getting the 2nd round pick back. Has anyone heard anything credible on this topic?

rlpmd · 12-12-2012, 09:58 AM

therefore to punish the organization means that we don't stand a rats azz chance of getting a pick back.

Le_Moyne · 12-12-2012, 10:02 AM

Honestly, I have seen many people say that but I went back to the different articles that came out when RG gave us the sanctions and didn't see anything about it.....

Maybe it's true but I'd lik to see the transcript....

SaintBrad · 12-12-2012, 10:03 AM

No, its gone.

That's all their is to it. Maybe we could trade a 2nd and 5th in 2014 to acquire a 2nd this year. But the original pick is gone

saint_drago · 12-12-2012, 10:16 AM

We didn't play nice. The players declared holy war on his arse. No pick for us.

schlodc · 12-12-2012, 10:19 AM

The Saints organization played nice. You didn't hear a word from the Saints front office, just the players.

bleedit1960 · 12-12-2012, 11:50 AM

We will lose others if we do. Saints could recoup 2013 2nd-rounder, but NFL could dock them other picks - CBSSports.com

SAINTS 12 · 12-12-2012, 11:57 AM

would you be ok with this 1st rd pick..if we dont get the 2nd rd,pick back? Todd Mcshay Mock Draft 1.0...not posting link because its a pay site..but will post his Saints Pick

New Orleans Saints

Record: 5-8

Jarvis Jones*, OLB, Georgia

The Saints are without a second-round pick as part of their punishment for the bounty scandal, so they must upgrade the pass rush with their first-rounder. Jones has top-notch pass-rush skills and his primary role as a rookie will be to get after the quarterback. He also has good range in coverage, and should be an upgrade as a starter on the strong side.

jayd265 · 12-12-2012, 11:58 AM

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"The Saints could get it back in terms of getting back a second-round draft choice," Wyche said," but it will come at the expense of some draft picks at the other end. … Let's say the Saints do not have a good season and they have a high second-round draft pick. The league could say, 'Okay, you can petition for that pick, we'll give it back to you, but it will come at the expense of a third and sixth-round pick.'

i hate goodell

bradman1965 · 12-12-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedit1960

We will lose others if we do. Saints could recoup 2013 2nd-rounder, but NFL could dock them other picks - CBSSports.com

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The Saints could get it back in terms of getting back a second-round draft choice," Wyche said," but it will come at the expense of some draft picks at the other end. … Let's say the Saints do not have a good season and they have a high second-round draft pick. The league could say, 'Okay, you can petition for that pick, we'll give it back to you, but it will come at the expense of a third and sixth-round pick.'

"So the Saints would have to weigh whether that would be worth trying to get that high second-round draft pick."

Could say? That's the most nonsensical quote ever. I have no idea if they'll get back some compensation for good behavior, but it looks like nobody else does either.

la. champ1 · 12-12-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedit1960

We will lose others if we do. Saints could recoup 2013 2nd-rounder, but NFL could dock them other picks - CBSSports.com

We will likely not get this pick back like I hoped, but it's alright and not worth it to have to give up other picks this year. If someone gives you lemons, make lemonade. If this Saints end up between picks 8-14 in the first round, a simple trade back to later in the first round should land us a second rounder plus possibly an additional pick in a later round(3rd or 4th round). That they cannot take away from us. These teams are always looking to trade up and reach for a specific player(cowboys for example). Unless there is a player that they feel is a must get at that slot, I bet this happens.

scott88 · 12-12-2012, 12:14 PM

If the Saints get the 2nd round pick back I want to get Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers

RaisingTheBar · 12-12-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintBrad

No, its gone.

That's all their is to it. Maybe we could trade a 2nd and 5th in 2014 to acquire a 2nd this year. But the original pick is gone

Lets trade Daniel for a 2nd and it will seem like nothing changed. That would require us playing him at least 1 game this year and he have a good performance.

scott88 · 12-12-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Lets trade Daniel for a 2nd and it will seem like nothing changed. That would require us playing him at least 1 game this year and he have a good performance.

Saints wouln't get a 2nd for Chase Daniel

NaJ88 · 12-12-2012, 12:52 PM

the CBSSports.com article stated:

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In the case of the team, the commissioner would consider whether there are factors that would support modifying the forfeiture of the team's 2013 second-round draft choice.

According to this phrasing... it makes it sound as if he could say after a year: "since the organization played nice, they will only lose a 3rd round pick instead of a 2nd." or he could give the pick back altogether.

It's all up to the commissioner, and maybe he'll actually be inclined to give the pick back later on in order to appear like a nice guy. There is nothing set in stone that says the Saints can't have their pick back.