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Old 08-26-2013, 03:09 PM   #1
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Question 3-4 Defensive Set-up

I know that in preseason, most teams prefer not to show their hand on defensive and offensive sets until the regular season. However, is it just me or does it seem that in the last three preseason games that the defense doesn't have a 3-4 look to it, e.g., three defensive linemen down with two OLBs standing near the line of scrimmage). For example, Will Smith was down on many snaps against the Texans. Can anyone explain why it appears at time, we're running a 4-3 defense instead?
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We are going to be a multiple front team.

Also because we've had so many LB's injured the 4-3 front means we only have to have one actual pass rushing OLB on the field. REst of the guys are DT's/DE's. So it effectively allows you to get guys snaps....without putting you in situations to have more injuries.

Of course it didn't work for will but thats one of the reasons we've been playing more 4-3 fronts.
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Im really thinking this defense may not even fit this team it seems like no matter who we get or what scheme were in we cant get it done........but maybe Im over reacting
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Im really thinking this defense may not even fit this team it seems like no matter who we get or what scheme were in we cant get it done........but maybe Im over reacting
lulz.

what in the world are you talkin about????

cant get what done exactly?
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Nobody plays in a base 3-4 all the time, and Rob Ryan is known for Multiple fronts.

We've lined up in your base 3-4, but in nickel situations you will typically see 4 down linemen, or when Rob gets exotic, you might see 1 or 2 down linemen, or even 0.

3-4 is pretty much just a lazy term, because almost nobody runs 1 kind of front anymore.
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Wasn't there an art, that quoted gil brandt, just post about this a couple of days ago. It talked about RR not using a classic 34, but more flexible.
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I know that in preseason, most teams prefer not to show their hand on defensive and offensive sets until the regular season. However, is it just me or does it seem that in the last three preseason games that the defense doesn't have a 3-4 look to it, e.g., three defensive linemen down with two OLBs standing near the line of scrimmage). For example, Will Smith was down on many snaps against the Texans. Can anyone explain why it appears at time, we're running a 4-3 defense instead?
We'll play multiple fronts, but we did start the game yesterday in a 4-3, and have shown that look alot.

It should be interesting to see what Ryan does when the games count.
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I know that in preseason, most teams prefer not to show their hand on defensive and offensive sets until the regular season. However, is it just me or does it seem that in the last three preseason games that the defense doesn't have a 3-4 look to it, e.g., three defensive linemen down with two OLBs standing near the line of scrimmage). For example, Will Smith was down on many snaps against the Texans. Can anyone explain why it appears at time, we're running a 4-3 defense instead?
NFL teams are in their base defenses about 30% of the time. So what you're seeing is subpackages.
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Just to add to what everyone else is saying about multi fronts, which is true, a typical "1 gap" 3-4 is almost exactly like a 4-3 in many aspects of the game. the main pass rusher is technically a "olb" but is on the line of scrimmage rushing the passer for majority of the game from the 7/9 technique.

there are a few neat things you can do from the "3-4" with your pass rusher/s standing vs being hand in dirt though, dropping your OLBs, disguising things like zone / overload blitzes, and coverage shades.

my favorite thing is with versatile linemen (in our case cam and akiem), you can leave them on their "better" side of the line, and just adjust whether they play 3tech or 5/6tech based on which side is weak side. (think j.j. watt where on some plays, he would be playing over the guard inside the pass rush OLB, sometimes hed be shading the tackle and playing traditional 5/6 tech DE)

overall i wouldnt read into it too much. nowadays with the emergence of passing, teams are so rarely in base packages that the 3-4 and 4-3 monikers are relatively pointless.
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Im really thinking this defense may not even fit this team it seems like no matter who we get or what scheme were in we cant get it done........but maybe Im over reacting


Yeh. Just maybe
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