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04-15-2012, 01:00 PM
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redemption draweth nigh
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Originally Posted by Zardnok
With the 128th pick in the "Official" SR Mock Draft, the New England Patriots select:
David Molk Center Michigan
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Shew...
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Raiders "Expert" Mock Draft 2013: 1 (3): Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia. 3 (66): DJ Hayden, CB, Houston. 4 (112): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. 5 (147): Tavarres King, WR, Georgia. 6 (172): Earl Wolff, S, NC State. 6 (176): Mychal Rivera, TE, Vols. 6 (205): Tyler Bray, QB, Vols. 7: Cameron Lawrence, LB, MSU.
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04-15-2012, 01:07 PM
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Zardnokalicious!
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And with that final pick, the Patriots have officially won this years "Official" Mock Draft. We are done with our picks now and the rest of you can scramble to see who finishes in second!
My Final Draft class:
Mark Barron Safety Alabama
Devon Still DE Penn State
Kendall Reyes DE U Conn
Bobbie Massie OT Ole Miss
Kyle Wilber OLB Wake Forrest
David Molk OC Michigan
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04-15-2012, 01:08 PM
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Always Start Simple
Join Date: Jul 2001
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I have the Giants pick. New York selects:
Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple
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Strengths: Possesses a bigger frame with a strong, compact build -- has done a nice job adding bulk to his frame the past three years. Flashes initial burst and good lateral quickness to sidestep defenders or bounce runs outside with very good foot quickness. An instinctive runner with elusive, slippery moves with the first defender rarely bringing him down in space. Displays very good feel as an inside and outside runner with above average vision to make sharp cuts -- very good patience and footwork to pick through defenses. A physical runner who doesn't shy from contact, doing a nice job lowering his pads and absorbing contact with balance -- fights for every yard with toughness to run through arm tackles. Put together a strong collegiate resume the past three seasons with above average production -- holds school single-season records for rush scores (27) and 100-yd rush games (9), plus career record for rush scores (53).
Weaknesses: A tall, upright runner who lacks imposing power as a runner. Not a quick-twitch athlete and is forced to gear down too much. Not very loose throughout his frame and looks tight when quickly redirecting. Lacks great straight-line speed and might struggle to win the edge at the next level, lacking an extra gear to separate himself. Tends to dance too much and go east/west or leave his feet instead of taking what's there. Has some ball security concerns and offers limited versatility at the next level with little experience as a receiver (only 19 career catches) and as a return man (only 1 career return on special teams) -- raw in pass protection and needs work in this area. Took a beating in college and has strong durability concerns, missing several games over his career and didn't look 100% most of his career -- missed extensive time with hamstring issue and also a concussion.
NFL Comparison: Chris Ivory, New Orleans Saints
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04-15-2012, 01:20 PM
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#184
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Always Start Simple
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Minnesota should be along this afternoon with his pick. If anyone left with a 4th round pick thinks they might not be around this evening, please PM me your pick or a short list of players to help finish this round today. Thanks.
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04-15-2012, 03:39 PM
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"Official" Vikings Fan/GM
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I'm just starting to do my research for the 4th round Compensatory area, so I will definitely be making my picks today before too long.
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04-15-2012, 05:55 PM
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yes! thats my boy Bernard P! I love that kid. He really does remind me of Ivory. I went to a few Temple games this past season. I hope he makes a difference wherever he lands
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04-15-2012, 08:23 PM
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"Official" Vikings Fan/GM
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Revised pick # 128:
Vikings select Safety Antonio Allen from the other USC..
My apologies to the Chiefs owner, didn't look at 2nd rd...
Picture to come later...
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04-15-2012, 09:04 PM
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redemption draweth nigh
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With The 131st Pick The Raiders Select CB Cliff Harris, Oregon
Talk about a steal! Dropped by injuries and behaving badly (which is the Raiders way) we're thrilled to have this All American! As a sophomore, Harris broke up 23 passes and picked off 6 passes. He set an Oregon record with four punt return touchdowns. Hurt most of last season and then dismissed from the team for speeding and being one toke over the line, Harris decided to enter the draft early.
He's in Football's Future top 10 CB's:
2012 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings: Defensive Back
Ricky Dimon has him going in the second round over at FFToolbox...
2012 NFL Mock Draft by FFToolbox Writer, Ricky Dimon: Round 2
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Man Coverage: Rarely asked to play at the line of scrimmage in press coverage, though he appears to have the quick feet and loose hips to perform well in this scheme. Very experienced in off-man coverage, demonstrating a low, tight back pedal, fluid turning motion and straight-line speed to stick with any receiver in the country. Possesses a legitimate second gear when the ball is in flight and competes for every pass.
Zone Coverage: Excellent anticipatory skills. Sneaks a peek back at the quarterback when he can and will vacate his assignment to break on underneath routes. Possessing an explosive burst downhill to close on the ball. Isn't a physical hitter who is going to intimidate anyone but has very good lateral agility to break down in space and is a reliable open field tackler.
Ball Skills: Possesses very good hands and body control for the position. Times his leaps well, has a very good vertical jump and high-points passes, showing the hand-eye-coordination normally associated with wideouts. Very good vision, agility and straight line speed for the return. To nitpick, Harris carries the ball too loosely when he has it. Muffs the occasional punt and has had the ball ripped out of his hands on returns, as well (Stanford). This would appear to be mainly a concentration issue, however, while he focusing more on making a big play rather than ball security.
Run Support: A bit inconsistent in supporting the run. More than willing to take on the back in space - including bigger ball-carriers - but is okay with his teammates doing the dirty work, as well. Good quickness, agility and aggression in slipping past receiver blocks, but can get tied up by bigger, stronger wideouts. Inconsistent effort in pursuit, though he picks it up a notch when he sees the ball-carrier has a chance for a big play. Takes good angles in pursuit when necessary.
Tackling: A surprisingly effective tackler considering that he often relies on taking the knees out from the ball-carrier. Very good body control and accuracy to strike at the legs of the ball-carrier and does a nice job of wrapping his arms to stop the bigger man. Willing to lower his shoulder and play with physicality, but isn't going to scare anyone with his hitting ability.
Intangibles: Of his eight career interceptions, four have come against Andrew Luck (two), Matt Barkley (one) and Jake Locker (one). Legitimate character red-flags. Has reportedly racked up more than $5,000 in traffic fines over the past three years stemming from various arrests for speeding, driving with a suspended license, driving without insurance, failing to stop at a stop sign and minor in possession of alcohol, among other things. Fresno County court records indicate that Harris has not held a valid driver's license for more than two years. Famously, he and a teammate (quarterback Darron Thomas) were stopped in the early morning hours of July 12 driving 118 miles per hour along Interstate 5 in a car rented by a University of Oregon employee. Found himself in more legal hot water a few months later (Oct. 24) after again being pulled over and ticketed for driving with a suspended license, no proof of insurance and for driving without wearing his seat belt. Was suspended by the team and ultimately kicked off the team for good when he arrested on November 25 for possession of marijuana.--Rob Rang
Cliff Harris, Oregon, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com
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Raiders "Expert" Mock Draft 2013: 1 (3): Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia. 3 (66): DJ Hayden, CB, Houston. 4 (112): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. 5 (147): Tavarres King, WR, Georgia. 6 (172): Earl Wolff, S, NC State. 6 (176): Mychal Rivera, TE, Vols. 6 (205): Tyler Bray, QB, Vols. 7: Cameron Lawrence, LB, MSU.
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04-15-2012, 10:14 PM
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#189
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Jimmy Graham Fanboi
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"He's got get away from the cops speed!"
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R1, P2: Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon; R2, P1: Johnthan Banks, CB, MSU; R3, P2: Justin Pugh, OG/T, 'Cuse; R4, P1: Brian Schwenke, C, CAL; R5, P2: John Simon, DE, OSU; R6, P1: Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, The U; R7, P2: Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook
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04-15-2012, 10:22 PM
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I think I'm nailing some people's 5th round waiting with this one, cause he ain't going to make it back around to me, and a true LT is always value.
Ravens take Boise State LT Nate Potter
Height: 6-6. Weight: 303.
40 Time: 5.36.
Bench: 22.
Arm: 34 5/8
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Positives: Tall, reliable blocker with long arms, good agility and a solid initial punch. Knocks rushers off their route. Has experience at guard. Shows the speed to recover and slide back into his set but gets too narrow-based. Has jackhammer hands and delivers constant hits until the play is over. Has light, quick feet sliding but only adequate overall burst. Strong enough to control and plant linebackers and safeties attacking gaps.
Negatives: Average upper-body strength. Lacks the sand in his pants to withstand bull rushers in the NFL. Adequate initial burst should be far better and isn't good enough to consistently hold out elite pass rushers. Doesn't always get his arms up and extended and can be hip-tossed off balance.
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Has some experience playing G (that is G as in Grubbs) and looking to solidify line.
Jah Reid penciled in as starter, Zebrie Sanders added in 2nd, so this is further back up, competition and trying to be sure the replacement is on the roster for McKinnie next year.
Knock on him is strength, but he will have a year to get NFL strong for tackle, and could be a servicable G this year,
there were a couple of other names I have on the list, but Potter's position moved him ahead of other positions with a number of options available, something will fall there but I think this is the last LT who has any chance to contribute on any team this year.
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04-15-2012, 10:44 PM
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#191
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redemption draweth nigh
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"He's got get away from the cops speed!"
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Yeah but he's a first round talent. At some point, you take a shot on a guy like that. I'm consulting Marvin Lewis.
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Raiders "Expert" Mock Draft 2013: 1 (3): Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia. 3 (66): DJ Hayden, CB, Houston. 4 (112): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU. 5 (147): Tavarres King, WR, Georgia. 6 (172): Earl Wolff, S, NC State. 6 (176): Mychal Rivera, TE, Vols. 6 (205): Tyler Bray, QB, Vols. 7: Cameron Lawrence, LB, MSU.
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04-15-2012, 10:50 PM
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Always Start Simple
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The Giants select ( and I believe he is still there for them):
Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
The Giants aren't worried about a slow Combine 40 time. He is a football player, and they feel he will fit perfectly in their secondary.
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04-16-2012, 05:07 AM
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With the 134th pick, the Green Bay Packers Select Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina.
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Strengths: Long-armed press corner with size, athleticism and ball skills. Gets an effective jab on the receiver and has loose enough hips to turn and run. Good agility and balance when shadowing his target. Competitive player. Plays the ball as if it was thrown for him, showing burst back to the ball as well as good timing for the jump ball. Good hand-eye coordination. Rips the ball out of the hands of receivers as they grasp at it (35 career PBUs) and shows good hands to make the interception (13 career INTs). Possesses long arms (32.5) and can extend and snatch the ball as well as track the ball over his shoulder. Cagey. Will bait quarterbacks to throw in his direction and shows a surprising burst downhill. Alert run defender willing to take on and discard receiver blockers to get to the action. Enjoyed a strong week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game and and a late call-up to the Senior as an injury replacement, impressive in both environments
Big play artist on special teams, registering a school-record four blocked kicks
Weaknesses: At his best in press-man coverage as he has a high backpedal and loses a step turning without a cushion. Plays with adequate speed but there are concerns about his ability to handle the truly explosive speedsters of the NFL. Makes himself vulnerable to big plays on occassion by attempting to bait the quarterback. Was arrested in October 2009 for driving with a suspended license.
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With the 135th pick, the Green Bay Packers select Demario Davis, OLB, Arkansas State.
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Strengths: Demario Davis is a physical specimen When watching him on film two words come to mind: explosive and powerful He is one of the fastest linebackers in this draft class (4.53) and is THE strongest, producing 32 reps on the bench press Davis can truly play a sideline to sideline type game Tracks down the ball carrier all over the field, has great closing speed When he gets to the ball he finishes with power Has the ability to play any linebacker position, from 4-3 ILB, to OLB and could also be utilized as an edge rusher in a 3-4 One of the most powerful tacklers in the draft, punishes the ball carrier with each tackle, wraps up and drives into the ground Probably the most explosive first step of any LB, can get to top speed quickly Keeps his pad level low, showcasing natural bend in his hips and knees Takes on blockers at point of attack, can shed with his hands or with natural power Fluid athlete, can move laterally, change direction easily and turn and run Played in the 4-2-5, allowed to run free and make plays Plays with an intensity and passion on each play, I think he could be at his best when hes blitzing, just a relentless player Plays instinctive, once he sees the play develop, its like hes shot out of a cannon His athletic ability allows him to be pretty solid in coverage, can run with backs out of the backfield and get a chip on the TE at LOS Can also cover a WR out of the slot Davis is one of the hardest workers in the draft and a great kid Contributed on all special teams throughout his career Has already graduated college and was on the academic honor roll throughout his time at Arkansas State.
Weaknesses: One of the biggest questions with Davis is where he is going to play at the next level He was given a lot of freedom to make plays, so he will be reigned in a little bit in the pros Technique can be improved, but has gotten better Man coverage ability can always improve, as well as instincts while in zone coverage Small school label, so not as well known as other players
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04-16-2012, 07:07 AM
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Always Start Simple
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Minnesota sent in his pick. The Vikings will select:
Akiem Hicks DT University of Regina
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04-16-2012, 07:21 AM
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Hall-of-Famer
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At work AGAIN for my pick ha
Dallas selects:
MARVIN JONES
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CAL
Summary of write up to come later:
Peace out L. Robinson. Hello Mr. JONES
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