good article on goodell {shifting ESPN POV, merged - kd}

bearkatsaint · 08-07-2012, 03:40 PM

looks like ESPN is finally starting to come around.

Any Roger Goodell deal for Jonathan Vilma, Saints raises questions - ESPN

barto · 08-07-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bearkatsaint

looks like ESPN is finally starting to come around.

Any Roger Goodell deal for Jonathan Vilma, Saints raises questions - ESPN

Adam's last sentence was the best part of the entire video.

reggiekush · 08-07-2012, 03:52 PM

Good article goes to show the media turning heads

lvsaintsfan57 · 08-07-2012, 04:04 PM

I hate not hating ESPN right now. My favorite part...

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If Goodell backs down on his punishment for questionable reasons -- be it to preserve his personal power as commissioner, or to keep the preponderance of the NFL's evidence against the Saints hidden rather than let it come out in a court case -- it will look like principle didn't drive his punishment decisions. Just PR.

Once everything comes to light, Goodell is going to need a scapegoat to preserve his credibility (and job). Problem is, being judge, jury and executioner, there's nobody there to take the fall.

saintsfan26 · 08-07-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lvsaintsfan57

I hate not hating ESPN right now. My favorite part...
Once everything comes to light, Goodell is going to need a scapegoat to preserve his credibility (and job). Problem is, being judge, jury and executioner, there's nobody there to take the fall.

I think his scapegoat already quit on him. Joe Hummel.

J.Ogle · 08-07-2012, 04:16 PM

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I think his scapegoat already quit on him. Joe Hummel.

This!

glazov2 · 08-07-2012, 04:40 PM

This is hilarious

!! I can hardly believe my eyes/ears!!

Pedal to the metal Vilma!!!!!

Madmarsha · 08-07-2012, 04:49 PM

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principle didn't drive his punishment decisions. Just PR

I think the very people he supposedly does all this for, the players, already get that he's not doing it for them, he's doing it for the brand.

I can't believe, as some of the THs are saying, yes, we know this kind of thing goes on in locker rooms, that more aren't having epiphanies that the Saints are being made scapegoats all in the name of "player protection". Esp. when you can't identify one dang player that was being targeted with egregious illegal hits.

geauxboy · 08-07-2012, 04:50 PM

What I really wish for is for someone (like Scheft or Mort) to say that these players testified UNDER OATH, instead of just "stated their case". Even though this article/video is leaning towards our side, it's still not enough. Don't omit such an important factor in all this.

Madmarsha · 08-07-2012, 04:54 PM

This line is hysterical:

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The NFL's response has essentially been, "Is too."

Cos that's what we've been saying all along.

gboudx · 08-07-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxboy

What I really wish for is for someone (like Scheft or Mort) to say that these players testified UNDER OATH, instead of just "stated their case". Even though this article/video is leaning towards our side, it's still not enough. Don't omit such an important factor in all this.

The average fan may not really understand what "under oath" means. They should also include that the players/coach(es) would face jail time if they are caught to be lieing.

gboudx · 08-07-2012, 05:14 PM

Against my better judgement, I read the comments. Is this true? Did the judge really say this?

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Goodell's lawyers took the judge very seriously when she looked at them and said, --"My advice is for a settlement to be negotiated, because trust me, you don't want to come to my court room with your "Borderline Ridiculous" evidence." Vilma's lawyer is eagerly waiting to reveal the whole truth and a little more about Goodell in court. Goodell will do what it takes to avoid that. Vilma will insist the deal includes freeing Payton and Vitt as well. Justice!

geauxboy · 08-07-2012, 05:24 PM

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The average fan may not really understand what "under oath" means. They should also include that the players/coach(es) would face jail time if they are caught to be lieing.

As stupid as that sounds, you're more than likely dead on.

I do sort of mean to go off on a tangent when I say that this whole ordeal (and Spygate in retrospect) hopefully has opened some eyes to the inner workings of the media and more specifically the verbiage to the average fan. Some of us SR folk included.

Words can be so powerful when precisely choreographed. The media, in it's infinite reach and power, sets the tone for how they want you to feel about a particular subject. RG played this to (sortof) perfection no matter the outcome of all this.

He and the NFL have messed up several times in this debacle of a lynching and to me it seems to have been an "out" all along. A backdoor if you will. The thing I don't get is why create such a ****storm, create an out, and go **** to the wall after the Saints? Why not just throw a few fines and shorter suspensions and be done with it. Maybe that's why NE bit the bullet?

Tangent must end now or will never end.

geauxboy · 08-07-2012, 05:25 PM

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Against my better judgement, I read the comments. Is this true? Did the judge really say this?

It just SO moved.

Of all the good news coming from this BS, this one actually has my attention.

saintlyn8 · 08-07-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gboudx

Against my better judgement, I read the comments. Is this true? Did the judge really say this?

Just saw that myself, and i was wondering if it were really true as well. If so, GODell must be soiling his britches. I hope he goes down in flames.