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03-30-2012, 07:01 AM
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#91
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Pro-Bowler
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 36
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Originally Posted by CaliSaint4Life
I'm black, and even I think this is craziness. He's just looking for a headline.
This situation is TOTALLY unique. I could see if Payton retired or got fired, then it could apply. You are looking at a team who is Super Bowl ready, who needs someone in place who knows the system and can step in and be productive instantly.
It's embarrassing as an African-American to hear him say this. If Parcells was a black coach, I bet you wouldn't hear any white coaches complaining that they didn't get a chance at an interview. Everything doesn't have to be about race. Too often it's used as a crutch, versus a means toward equality.
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Exactly, thanks, i didn't feel like typing all of this, so ditto...
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03-30-2012, 07:36 AM
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#92
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 1998
Location: Albany, NY
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Originally Posted by jasonj
People keep saying that Goodell is 'choosing' to enforce this. Has it been determined that this is even Goodell's call to make? What is the diversity committee's role in enforcement of this rule?
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The point is that the rule is being enforced by ????????? I really don't care who is enforcing it. My point is that it should not be applicable in this case. If the NFL decides that African-American coaches should be interviewed when there is a head coaching job available in the NFL, I as a white person am fine with that--although I think I understand Calisaints' point. This is not a head coaching job but rather a temporary one. This situation turns the Rooney Rule into a farce. And by the way, Payton as a citizen of the USA is free to talk to anyone, including Bill Parcells.
IMHO the Rooney Rule is appropriate when applied to the normal situation. Does anyone think this is a normal situation? If so, then why is there so much media hoopla? Suppose Payton had to take a year off for health reasons, for example. Would the Saints be bound by the Rooney Rule? I should hope not, and I see NO difference between my hypothetical situation and the actual situation in terms of the Rooney Rule.
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03-30-2012, 08:38 AM
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#93
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 140
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Originally Posted by SAINTSFAN
Agreed. It is a ridiculous rule. If the candidate is qualified, he should get the interview. If not, he should not, regardless of racial background. It is just another stupid rule the NFL instituted in order to alleviate potential discrimination claims (kinda like suspending a coach for a year to try and CYA on injury lawsuits).
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i lived in pittsburgh and even the people there think the rule is ********... this is BIG TUNA we're talking about... the only person who should complain is Jimmy Johnson for not getting a shot at the #1 offense 
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03-30-2012, 09:11 AM
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The Dome Dunkers
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Herm Edwards just wanted his name in the press.
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03-30-2012, 09:48 AM
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Pro-Bowler
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Orleans, of course
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Originally Posted by AARPSaint
If so, then why is there so much media hoopla?
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24 hour sports news networks need something to talk about. Issues like this are good for ratings because people get all fired up and then they go type a bunch of words on the internet. Look how effective it was on you.
This isn't a big deal to anyone who matters. No one with a lick of common sense sees this as an issue and if a deal needs to get done, it will. Might as well ignore Herm and the other idiots and just let everything play out.
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03-30-2012, 09:52 AM
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Funny... I don't remember Herm Edwards speaking out when Jerry Jones hired his OC for the head coaching position--after announcing when he was hired as OC that he would be the Cowboys' next head coach.
I think of how Jones made a mockery of the Rooney Rule every time someone opens his yap about it as the Saints face this situation. Who does Edwards think will interview for a one year head coaching position, knowing in a year he'd be looking for a job? And if the Saints do well, everyone will say, "Yeah, look at the team he inherited." No matter what, the "new" head coach of the Saints won't be able to really add to his resume by coaching this year. Parcells is probably the only person out there willing to take on the job.
Here's an idea, bring Edwards in for an interview to satisfy this rule. He'd probably turn it down.
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03-30-2012, 10:24 AM
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Pro-Bowler
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03-30-2012, 11:01 AM
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WHO DAT !!!!
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Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast
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03-30-2012, 02:47 PM
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They can bring me in and interview me? I won't be mad about it if they had someone else in mind. I do qualify for the Rooney rule by the way.
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03-30-2012, 03:47 PM
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32nd of Juvember
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally Posted by AARPSaint
The point is that the rule is being enforced by ????????? I really don't care who is enforcing it. My point is that it should not be applicable in this case. If the NFL decides that African-American coaches should be interviewed when there is a head coaching job available in the NFL, I as a white person am fine with that--although I think I understand Calisaints' point. This is not a head coaching job but rather a temporary one. This situation turns the Rooney Rule into a farce. And by the way, Payton as a citizen of the USA is free to talk to anyone, including Bill Parcells.
IMHO the Rooney Rule is appropriate when applied to the normal situation. Does anyone think this is a normal situation? If so, then why is there so much media hoopla? Suppose Payton had to take a year off for health reasons, for example. Would the Saints be bound by the Rooney Rule? I should hope not, and I see NO difference between my hypothetical situation and the actual situation in terms of the Rooney Rule.
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It should be revised, to be more applicable today.
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03-30-2012, 04:59 PM
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#101
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Practice Squad
Join Date: May 2010
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HELLO! HELLO! you play to win the game! you play to win the game!
-man! for the life of me i can't remember where i heard that from.... 
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03-30-2012, 09:24 PM
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Not a Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 27
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I understand where they are coming from,but until the Saints actually violate the "Rooney Rule" there comments are premature. The Saints are in the process of looking for a replacement. We violated it "in spirit" by announcing we are interested in a hall of fame calibur head coach? The comment itself is a joke. Roger Goodell Violated the "spirit" of the NFL by allowing Bounty gate and Spy Gate 1&2 (ETC)to happen under his watch. Are you also upset by the bad things that have happen under R.G. or are you just getting your lame name into the public light by attacking the easy subject.
Saints have not violated the Rooney Rule in anyway and I find the comment offensive.
If your choice was Herm Dumbness or Bill Parcells,is there even a question of which is better or preferred? Not only by Saints fans,but the majority of the NFL.
How about Bill vs Dikta... It's not about the Rooney rule,we just happen to know what we want & need. Parcells does seem like an interesting fit. Now because the NFL has determine the fates of all,we now have to interview a minority coach. This was not the Saints choice,no just another forced item from R.G.. (It was not the Saints choice to mock,nor will or have they mocked anything.) In no way does the City of New Orleans mock the Rooney Rule. Ppl need to think before they speak,I am a example of this...
After all we are the Saints,and we play by the same rules as 31 other teams now...
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