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Old 12-08-2011, 05:54 PM   #1
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N/S - Rank the 10 Greatest QBs of the 1970s.

I was thinking about this the other day. I'm no necessarily talking about super bowl victories, but I'm more referring to overall play and consistency.

1. Bert Jones, Colts - He was drafted in '73 and had 4 great years (including 2 really special seasons), but injuries limited him. His arm and athleticism are often under appreciated because he never went to a super bowl. Some people consider his '76 season one of the best in NFL history, but he lost in the AFC championship game.

2. Roger Staubach, Cowboys - He took over the starting job in '71 and lead the pokes to 3 super bowls under his guidance. He was the original gunslinger (before Brett Favre) who only passed 60% completion percentage once but his athleticism and heart were unique and special. From '73 to '79, he was consistently great and he always put his team in position to win.

3. Terry Bradshaw, Steelers - He had a rocket for an arm and he won four super bowls - which is the main reason he is on this list. He never had great stats, but he was one of the best game managers to ever play. He had the ability to make big plays when everyone expected a run, but it was the talent around him and a few luck plays that truly made him so famous - but he was athletic and gifted as a football player. His near 4,000 yards passing in '79 was special.

4. Bob Griese, Dolphins - He was a super athletic and intelligent QB that lead the Dolphins to 2 super bowls and played in 3 super bowls (he barely played in the undefeated '72 season). He was consistently good year in and year out. Although the Phins didn't make it to any SBs after '73, they were constantly in the hunt. He had no where near the offensive talent that Bradshaw had around him, but he was a great leader. He never put up awesome numbers but he was always very good.

5. Archie Manning, Saints - He could've been #1 or #2 on this list had Saints ownership actually done anything to help him, but he was consistently good to great even on very bad teams. At the end of the 70s when the Saints had some offensive talent (Muncie and Chandler), Archie had 2 truly great seasons. He was possibly the most athletic and physically imposing QB of the 70s.

6. Jim Hart, Cardinals - In a very similar manner as Manning, Hart played great on some really bad football teams. He was the perfect pocket passer whose '76 season was only under appreciated because it was the same year that Bert Jones was setting the world on fire. Hart was consistently very good to great year in and year out on a Cardinal team that was usually very bad.

7. Fran Tarkenton, Vikings - He lead the Vikes to 3 super bowls in the 70s - but didn't win any of them. He was the original Michael Vick - he was as lethal running the ball as he was throwing the ball. Having said that, he was a great passer too.

8. Joe Ferguson, Bills - Another very underrated QB with no rings. He was an accurate, athletic passer who led the Bills to the heights of success. He was smart and really helped out in a run-happy offense while also bringing added explosion in the passing game - he was an early version of Drew Brees.

9. Dan Fouts, Chargers - He would be much higher on this list if it also included the 80s. He was very good in the 70s too though. He became the prototype of all QBs to follow him for many years. He was a big, strong pocket-passer who could read defenses and make plays with his arm and carry a team from the QB position.

10. Ken Anderson, Bengals - This underrated QB took the bengals to the super bowl in the 80s, but he was great in the 70s too. He was a consistent power and pain in the steelers side year in and year out because ken was and extremely accurate QB with a big arm and solid athleticism.

What do you think? Do you agree? Why or why not?
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Bert Jones did lead Baltimore to 3 consecutive AFC East crowns, but never made the AFCCG. Colts lost in first round three times in a row(75-77), twice to Pittsburgh, and once to Oakland in one of NFL's few double OT playoff games dubbed "Ghost to the Post". Player from both teams, particularly Raiders Stabler, Casper, said it was greatest game they ever played in, at any level. I've heard Raiders fans compare it to SD/Miami Epic in Miami. It's interesting it's considered the last great Colts game played in Baltimore, but a swan song for ******-era Raiders like Stabler, Atkinson, Tatum, the playoff win Oakland had for 3 years.

Ken Anderson revolutionized Walsh's WC offense from blackboard to field almost decade before it become proverbial de joir standard in SF. And he did far more with good, but at times, underachieving Bengals teams under Paul Brown, Forrest Gregg in 81, 82. Excellent QB with deceptive speed whose loss to SF in SB XVI destroyed potential HOF chances.

Joe Ferguson's job early on wasn't very difficult in sense he just handed ball to OJ, and watch him scorch defenses. Probably best pre-Jim Kelly QB for some woeful Bills teams, arguably worse then now, during and after OJ left for Niners, although Knox refreshed team with new talent, wily veterans like Phil Villapiano, Conrad Dobler. Their playoff losses in 80, 81 were very close games, Fouts threw a 50-yd TD to Charlie Joiner with less minute left otherwise Raiders don't play AFCCG in sunny San Diego but frigid upstate NY following week.
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1. Terry Bradshaw
2. Bob Griese
3. Fran Tarkenton
4. Dan Fouts
5. Archie Manning
6. Ken Anderson
7. Jim Hart
8. Greg Landry
9. Joe Ferguson
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5. Archie Manning, Saints - He could've been #1 or #2 on this list had Saints ownership actually done anything to help him, but he was consistently good to great even on very bad teams. At the end of the 70s when the Saints had some offensive talent (Muncie and Chandler), Archie had 2 truly great seasons. He was possibly the most athletic and physically imposing QB of the 70s.


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Kenny Stabler had a few seasons in the 70s that were just incredible. One year he had a QB rating of 105 for the season.
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Top 10 QB Approximate Value from 1970 to 1979:

125 - Roger Staubach
115 - Fran Tarkenton
112 - Bob Griese
104 - Terry Bradshaw
100 - Ken Anderson
96 - Jim Hart
93 - Ken Stabler
88 - Greg Landry
75 - Craig Morton
70 - Archie Manning

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Kim McQuilken should be in there somewhere(google his stats).Anyone who sabotaged the Falcons that much should be in the hall of fame as I see it. (or at least the Saints Hall of fame.)
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1. Tarkenton (Easily the best QB of the decade, just could not win the big one)

2. Staubach

3. Bradshaw (4 SBs get him this high, you certainly can't ignore them)

4. Hart

5. Stabler

6. Jones (had he not gotten hurt, he could have finished #1 on this list)

7. Griese

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Top 10 QB Approximate Value from 1970 to 1979:

125 - Roger Staubach
115 - Fran Tarkenton
112 - Bob Griese
104 - Terry Bradshaw
100 - Ken Anderson
96 - Jim Hart
93 - Ken Stabler
88 - Greg Landry
75 - Craig Morton
70 - Archie Manning

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Tarkenton would have projected to about 126 had he not broken his leg to end his career.
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1. Terry Bradshaw
2. Bob Griese
3. Fran Tarkenton
4. Dan Fouts
5. Archie Manning
6. Ken Anderson
7. Jim Hart
8. Greg Landry
9. Joe Ferguson
10. Dan Pastorini
I left off Bert Jones only because of injuries ... from 1975-77, he was terrific, but then shoulder injuries limited his playing time. I just forgot about Stabler. Snake should definitely be in top 10. He and Pastorini were actually traded for each other in 1980. Plunkett didn't make my list because his play tailed off dramatically in mid-70's. He was then cut by 49'ers and signed on as a backup in Oakland.

Bradshaw complained about Noll's coaching style, but if he had ended up in Chicago, who knows what would have happened. The Bears and Steelers were both 1-13 in 1969. They flipped a coin just before Super Bowl IV, and the Steelers won the toss ... and the first pick of the 1970 draft (Bradshaw). The Bears never found a good QB until McMahon in the 1980's.
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1. Terry Bradshaw
2. Bob Griese
3. Fran Tarkenton
4. Dan Fouts
5. Archie Manning
6. Ken Anderson
7. Jim Hart
8. Greg Landry
9. Joe Ferguson
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I left off Bert Jones only because of injuries ... from 1975-77, he was terrific, but then shoulder injuries limited his playing time. I just forgot about Stabler. Snake should definitely be in top 10. He and Pastorini were actually traded for each other in 1980. Plunkett didn't make my list because his play tailed off dramatically in mid-70's. He was then cut by 49'ers and signed on as a backup in Oakland.

Bradshaw complained about Noll's coaching style, but if he had ended up in Chicago, who knows what would have happened. The Bears and Steelers were both 1-13 in 1969. They flipped a coin just before Super Bowl IV, and the Steelers won the toss ... and the first pick of the 1970 draft (Bradshaw). The Bears never found a good QB until McMahon in the 1980's.
Was leaving Staubach off the list an oversight?

I would have him easily #1.. never saw a QB rip up defenses like Roger the Dodger.
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I was going to mention Stabler as well. Draftfreak, at some point you should start a thread for 80's QBs & 90's QBs as well. You'll probably get more discussion.
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