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Old 02-24-2013, 11:51 AM   #106
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I've thought about this, and I wonder if this is either to make a trade more palatable for other teams, .
Why would he have any incentive to restructure so we could trade him? Absolutely no chance of that happening.
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But yes, quite obviously the saints intend to cut his non-guaranteed money down considerably, extend his deal, and prorate the already guaranteed pay over the length of the contract, creating a lower cap number and filling the roster spot than if they had cut him.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:56 PM   #108
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But yes, quite obviously the saints intend to cut his non-guaranteed money down considerably, extend his deal, and prorate the already guaranteed pay over the length of the contract, creating a lower cap number and filling the roster spot than if they had cut him.
Good point. I think he has around $6.8M of guaranteed money left on his deal. We could spread that out over the course of about three years and put some bonuses and incentives in there for Smith. More than he would make in the open market but good enough for us cap-wise.

I'm no cap wizard but this is just a guess.
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Why would he have any incentive to restructure so we could trade him? Absolutely no chance of that happening.
You don't understand the business end of this. Who says he would know a trade was in the works?
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You don't understand the business end of this. Who says he would know a trade was in the works?
It really doesn't matter, nobody would trade for Will Smith.
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Is this done yet? How long can they be working on the restructured contract?
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:41 AM   #112
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The Saints fielded an awful defense last season. However, for a lame-duck season without a head coach there has been an extraordinary level of vindictive rage directed at players in a personal way. Much of the rage these players receive is the result of immature fans with anger issues who try to live vicariously through the team to make up for the problems they have in their personal lives. This is sadly a common phenomenon.

The majority of sports fans are everyday people with a healthy and passionate interest, but football teams often attract individuals with low self esteem who want to latch on to a "winner" in order to feel better about themselves.

When the "winner" these people have chosen isn't successful, they become irrationally angry and lash out in a personal way.

In short, if you feel that the Saints need to cut a player to "punish" them for not reaching your expectations this says little about the Saints but an awful lot about your emotional and mental health and maturity
Thank you Dr. Brothers but maybe the fans see a guy who plays lousy every week and want to get rid of him because they truly feel that would be best for the team. It has been going on since the beginning of fandom and one of the nice things about being a fan is that you can play GM and call for someones head yet ave no repercussions if you are wrong but bask in your own brilliance if you are right.

However, there is the deep psycolgical issues afflicting those that want to hold on to obviously bad players much like the Hoarder grips on to that moldy bread. Deep- seated fears grip this fan (Hoarder) as the desire for familiarity and control will lead this person to, if given the chance, draft the top 7 LSU players and tell us why we "need" them. A sad affliction that will show itself in support of players like Smith, Jenkins, and Harper. No cure yet discovered.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:30 AM   #113
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It really doesn't matter, nobody would trade for Will Smith.
Pretty much. I don't see him going anywhere. Restructure is best for both sides and I'd be surprised if it didn't happen. I think he's got something left in the tank, and with reduced snaps and a good rotation, we should see improved results from him. I'd be glad if he can stay on and mentor the younger guys similar to what Vilma could do at the linebacker position, and what I'd love to see Reed do at safety.
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They should just do whatever results in the best cap friendly situation presently and in the future. He's probably good enough as a backup if cap price is right. He's also not good enough to keep, any longer, if its detrimental to the cap situation. I'm certain Smith knows this and his outlook depends on his level of desire to stay with the team. Same is probably true for Vilma and Harper. If the FO does otherwise, I'd be disappointed.
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He's not hurting the team. He's not. "He hurt us on the field last year." Really? Then why was he kept on the field? "Because the coaches are stupid." OK, fine, I can't argue with you anymore.
Don't really get the logic. Obviously, entrenched starters are often kept on the field over younger players to the detriment of the team in this league. It's not at all uncommon. We've even seen it on our team before.

Why was he kept on the field over other players? I don't know but it's more then possible that the decision to do so was actually wrong.

We'd all be naive to ignore that FO loyalty and veteran status on a team does play a part in someone's role on a team. Sometimes in a negative way.
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If we're going to carry a cap charge for Smith, I'd rather do so with him on the team than with him off the team. He's still good depth. I think this 3-4 defense may suit him better at this stage of his career.
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