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Old 03-17-2012, 12:26 PM   #15
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Would absolutely love Lofton over Vilma. I'm all for it. It's a glaring weakness in our defense that has been continuously ignored over the years. Get some new linebackers!!!
Vilma will be always be one of my favorite Saints. But he is 30, will likely get suspended for 4-8 games, is undersized and injuries are taking their toll. When I would watch Lofton I'd pray we would get a couple of guys that athletic and tough at LBs. If Tez does not turn out to be a Terbucky clone, Lofton and Tez woulds completely change our defense.
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Not it doesn't. I too would like see Lofton in a Saints uni, but he will not come here (or go anywhere else for that matter) at a bargain price. The man is looking to get paid and he will not come cheap.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if we pulled this off. Love to have him here. But we could probably sign Hawthorne and Dunbar or Mays for what Lofton's asking.
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Yeah, I'd be shocked if we pulled this off. Love to have him here. But we could probably sign Hawthorne and Dunbar or Mays for what Lofton's asking.
Quality over quantity.
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Lofton is a 2 down back, according to Kirwan & TRock on Sirius.....that's why the clowns are letting him walk. Vilma is a 3 down back. If the Saints get rid of Vilma, who is going to defend the pass in the middle on 3rd downs?
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Lofton is a 2 down back, according to Kirwan & TRock on Sirius.....that's why the clowns are letting him walk. Vilma is a 3 down back. If the Saints get rid of Vilma, who is going to defend the pass in the middle on 3rd downs?
It is not like Vilma has been stopping the pass either.
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Maybe if Lofton was good in coverage. But that's not the case. I'd rather have Hawthorne.
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To qoute Bill B. from the pats "If we can block Vilma we can run the ball will someone block Vilma" He is a good LBer it just he was injured
There in lies the problem though.

Is he gonna get over his injury?

Personally I'm in the keep Vilma camp, but it would be ideal if he restructured and if we did bring in Lofton and Hawthorne then we might have to shuffle him to a new position.

Not sure how the man himself would like either of those scenarios but we'll see how it plays out.
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What's Vilma's cap hit? I think turning Vilma into Lofton at this stage might be a good move, if we include all the other factors (age, suspensions, injury, etc.)

Vilma may be better than Lofton in coverage, but Lofton is much better against the run...and I'm not sure I've seen Lofton be such a liability in coverage either - we're not playing a defensive scheme that requires the Mike to cover the middle like the Tampa 2, so I'd imagine we can scheme around his worst traits, which I don't think are all that bad tbh...

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Lofton is a 2 down back...If the Saints get rid of Vilma, who is going to defend the pass in the middle on 3rd downs?
Johnny Patrick (nickel back) or an extra safety like Quddus?
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Could Vilma be the possible fall guy for the bounty investigation? Could this be a way for the Saints to show the NFL that they've gotten rid of the bad apple? It was reported that Vilma "alledgedly slapped 10k on the table. Maybe my mind is just wandering!

his name also got drug through the mud when that guy went public about paying college players at The U. Said "watch the tape Johnny Vilma was trying to kill that guy" it was a QB for the Gators I believe.. I was kinda shocked to hear it then ... this 10k on the table thing... I dunno I don't buy the media bs I will wait for facts to come out.
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Maybe if Lofton was good in coverage. But that's not the case. I'd rather have Hawthorne.

Comparing Lofton to Hawthorne is like comparing Jimmy Graham to David Thomas.


Graham - Elite TE that is not really a blocker.
Thomas - Good overall player. Decent in pass protection, blocking and receiving.
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No, it's nothing like that. Lofton isn't elite. And Thomas is known as a receiving TE.
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