They will always be able to fall back on "failure to maintain control" or something for the coaches.
And if you really look at it, that's true - in hindsight someone should have controlled Gregg and his antics better. But the players are getting screwed. They have short careers as it is and are being punished without real evidence.
What about the coach? SP was punished for the same thing............
If the Judge were to grant a temporary injunction to Vilma while the legal maneuvers run their course, I imagine Coach Payton could seek relief as well.
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*edit. Ok.. ok.. yeah he was involved with a pay for performance system which is also illegal per NFL rules, but that didn't get any other coach or player even fined at any point in their careers.
there is pay for performance at every level of every organization in america
employee of the month? gets a giftcard to starbucks etc
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If the Judge were to grant a temporary injunction to Vilma while the legal maneuvers run their course, I imagine Coach Payton could seek relief as well.
On what grounds? Coaches are not covered under the CBA.
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Vilma Lofton and Hawthorne, we would have one of the top starting linebacker cores in the league! Crossing my fingers, and it sure wouldn't hurt to have Will Smith those first 4 games either especially since were going against some pretty dang good offenses those games. Come on court system!!!
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What about the coach? SP was punished for the same thing............
It's much trickier for them. They don't have a union backing them up and the NFL can blackball them quite easily so they never coach again. Covering the fact that they are doing so might be a bit tricky, but the NFL can manage it. The coaches and GMs are truly screwed because they are basically middle management and have no voice and no power when it comes to things of this nature. They have a lot of power on the field and in their offices, but when the NFL head office steps in and demands they toe the line, they might as well be the summer intern. They have just as much say. It's truly grotesque.
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there is pay for performance at every level of every organization in america
employee of the month? gets a giftcard to starbucks etc
high school football team practices hard all week......coach takes them out to eat
little league baseball.....ice cream after the games
its all pay for performance. this is not a crime
I know. I don't see the issue with it. I don't think the league did either because they let it happen for years, even though it was against NFL rules.
My point though was that if the league really wanted to get rid of pay for performance, they would have simply fined the first offender they caught... not suspended him indefinitely, and so on down the line. But we all believe we know the real reasons for that anyway and it has nothing to do with a pay for performance system and more to do with a non-existent system that the Saints supposedly had.
(and that's not my downvote, I only downvote ridiculously idiotic statements... yours I 100% agree with)
If the suspensions are voided successfully, I wonder if the coaches will seek legal means for getting theirs rescinded as well.
It isn't a "voiding of the discipline" that would ordered by the judge. If she grants Vilma's injunction, that is simply lifting the suspension temporarily while the case about the appeal goes forward in court. Ultimately, if Vilma wins that case, I believe that it would be remanded for a new arbitration under the CBA. The judge cannot actually void the discipline or insert her own decision on the bounty case itself.
And this result would arise under the standards applicable to CBA-sanctioned arbitrations. The coaches' suspensions were not the result of any arbitration and not subject to a CBA. They, therefore, would not have the same recourse.
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