Trading out of the first round, good or bad?

[RaisingTheBar]

Originally Posted by CajunSaint08

I am hoping for one of two scenarios come draft day:
1. Swap 1st round draft pick (15th) for a lower 1st round draft pick (21st to 32nd) and also add a 2nd round pick.
2. Swap 1st round draft pick for a 2nd and 7th round pick.

Either way, we would be swapping one pick for two. If not, stay pack and hope for the best.

GEAUX SAINTS!!!

Am I reading #2 wrong? How is the #15th overall pick worth a 2nd and a 7th?

[Euphonetiks]

Originally Posted by CajunSaint08

I am hoping for one of two scenarios come draft day:
1. Swap 1st round draft pick (15th) for a lower 1st round draft pick (21st to 32nd) and also add a 2nd round pick.
2. Swap 1st round draft pick for a 2nd and 7th round pick.

Either way, we would be swapping one pick for two. If not, stay pack and hope for the best.

GEAUX SAINTS!!!

I'm confused you want to trade our first for (1) a first and second or swap it for (2) a second and a seventh?

If scenario 2 plays out that would be the worst trade ever and all fans would be ******. Belicheck always trades out of the first and stockpiles picks which is nice, but his second round selections are typically average at best.

We should stay where we are and draft bpa, unless we are only dropping down a couple of slots (no more than 20th) in exchange for a 2nd or 3rd and coaches/Mickey feel one of their targets will still be there.

Can't answer the question without knowing whose there and what we get, but I am against trading down.

[WHODATDYLAN]

When is the last time the Saints have traded back?

[la. champ1]

I don't think it's a good idea to trade out of the first round considering their are definately some right away defensive impact players in the 1st round(which is what we need). However, if the staff does not see a player that they are just crazy about, I'm all for moving back in the first round and regaining our second round pick, seventh round pick, and maybe an additional pick(depending on how far back we move). This would be a good scenario considering just on defense, we need to draft a safety(harper/jenkins duo must be broken up), rush linebacker, 3-4 DE, cornerback, depth player at nose tackle. Offensively unless we sign Bushrod back, an OT (think the position needs an upgrade regardless of Bushrod), Tall explosive impact receiver, TE depth behind Graham and Higgins.

[Swampy Saint]

Originally Posted by Ross_s_cfc

Going by the draft pick trade value chart

Our #15 pick is worth 1050

KC has picks
#33 - 580
#65 - 265
#97 - 112
#129 - 43
#161 - 27
#193 - 14.2
worth a total of - 1021.2

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[bornnraisedwhodat]

I would not want to back out of the 1st round but I wouldnt mind trading but to the 24-28 range and pick up a a few extra picks.

[NOFALCONS10]

For a rebuilding team----Good.

For a championship caliber saints team missing only one or two impact guys--bad.


I say trade up for Lotulelei or Ansah.

[409forever]

we never trade back. with as many holes we have on defense we need quality players.i would like them to trade back,but i don't see it happening. and for those who think ansah will b our pick. not going to happen. payton drafts first round picks from big time colleges. i.e. usc,alabama . ohio state.

[662saint]

Originally Posted by Wicket6

unless a guy like jarvis jones or damontre moore is available. if we can get an impact rushbacker thats such a big need we cant pass up on it

We can get a rush line backer in later rounds and he is one of the best in the draft his name is Brandon Jenkins from FSU

[la. champ1]

Originally Posted by NOFALCONS10

For a rebuilding team----Good.

For a championship caliber saints team missing only one or two impact guys--bad.


I say trade up for Lotulelei or Ansah.

We are not one or two players away from a Super Bowl. Offensively you can argue that we are still around that level, but could stand to improve greatly by making one or two upgrades at certain positions and adding a player. Defensively we need three to four people who can come and be good solid starter caliber players (not necessarily pro bowl level), and one of those being a stud player, in order to make make very significant improvements defensively.

[Ken-Bob]

The Draft is very deep this year at many positions of need for the Saints. Yet there aren't many "can't miss" guys at the top, so trading down would be great. For example, what if the Saints could pick up a 2nd, another 3rd, and maybe a 7 from one of the teams with a surplus. No brainer for me. The problem is that the Saints won't be the only team wanting to do that.

As much as I really want to see a trade down happen, I actually see the Saints picking at 15 this year.

[birdog]

Originally Posted by WHODATDYLAN

When is the last time the Saints have traded back?

there are 2 reasons why to drop out of the first rd.....

1) Get an extra pick......experts all agree. There is not much difference between players from the 10th pick, and the 40th pick. I heard this from Bill Polian, who agrees with teams looking to trade down from their current draft position. Getting out of the first rd, and picking up another player between say, the first 45 players where their grade is very close, its smart. I hope M Loomis takes that in consideration.

2) The Saints track record in drafting first rd defensive talent is below average...some might argue, well below average. maybe Loomis is getting tired of all those misses in the 1st rd, and is looking to get out of the 1st round, if he has a good trade available.

[SAINTS 12]

[QUOTE=NOFALCONS10;4923031]For a rebuilding team----Good.

For a championship caliber saints team missing only one or two impact guys--bad.


I say trade up for Lotulelei or Ansah.[/QUOTE]
Report: Steelers “drooling” over BYU’s Ezekial Ansah

[Wicket6]

Originally Posted by 662saint

We can get a rush line backer in later rounds and he is one of the best in the draft his name is Brandon Jenkins from FSU

id prefer chase thomas but if we can get one of those two in the third id be ecstatic.

[Ross_s_cfc]

Originally Posted by CajunSaint08

I am hoping for one of two scenarios come draft day:
1. Swap 1st round draft pick (15th) for a lower 1st round draft pick (21st to 32nd) and also add a 2nd round pick.
2. Swap 1st round draft pick for a 2nd and 7th round pick.

Either way, we would be swapping one pick for two. If not, stay pack and hope for the best.

GEAUX SAINTS!!!

Why would we trade a late 1st pick for a second and 7th? That's ridiculous!

Early to mid 2nd and 3rd or a late 2nd, 4th and 5th is more likely.