Cp3+Ariza+Melo? - Page 2

nolafan33 · 08-11-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by earl_con_queso504

like why? i watched the lakers my whole life and seen what ariza can do,u showing your true colors of a new orleans sports fan thinking anyone team sign is a great signing ariza wont put the hornets over the hump and he isnt player that shows the hornets are commited to winning which cp3 wants......but good thing im not 19 anymore i prolly woulda wanted to fight u

earl_con_queso504 · 08-11-2010, 04:53 PM

nolafan 33 u can neg rep me all day but yes ariza is a lil better the difference is that ariza got the minutes byron scott held julian back hell if scott didnt get fired u woulda never seen what collison or thorton can do all im sayin is dont expect ariza to put the hornets in the 8th seed but youll find out for yourself

earl_con_queso504 · 08-11-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nolafan33

dont be so sensitive,i only said because u posted that u neg rep me its nothing to take to heart

Chinny · 08-11-2010, 04:58 PM

Ariza was the most underrated player on the lakers two years ago. He literally won clutch games vs Denver and played a big part against Orlando

Just like this past year, Kobe always gets the credit. Not gasol. Not artest. Not ariza

The one thing I will certainly credit Kobe for is his willingness to lobby other players - rivals even - for help. I wish cp would be more proactive instead of just complaining

earl_con_queso504 · 08-11-2010, 05:03 PM

chinny i kinda agree but carmelo murdered him that series,turkgolo and rashard lewis murdered him in the finals, artest was killing him which pushed that series to 7 even kirelenko was killing him in the first rd sure he made a few clutch shots but he missed alot too. its like sugar and salt with him i just dont my fellow saints fans to get high on this guy just to get their feelings hurt but hey i wont say anything else

vandelay · 08-11-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by earl_con_queso504

chinny i kinda agree but carmelo murdered him that series,turkgolo and rashard lewis murdered him in the finals, artest was killing him which pushed that series to 7 even kirelenko was killing him in the first rd sure he made a few clutch shots but he missed alot too. its like sugar and salt with him i just dont my fellow saints fans to get high on this guy just to get their feelings hurt but hey i wont say anything else

but the Lakers won all of those series. he won't be the lynch pin in this whole operation with the Hornets, at least not like he was depended on in Houston.

Chinny · 08-11-2010, 05:33 PM

I see what your sayin. Ariza can be volatile but hopefully that changes with more xp.

I would prefer Turk or Melo, but beggars cant be choosers

earl_con_queso504 · 08-11-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vandelay

but the Lakers won all of those series. he won't be the lynch pin in this whole operation with the Hornets, at least not like he was depended on in Houston.

yea they won but he still couldnt keep up with a teams star 2 or 3,people are gettin the idea that he is a defensive animal he is a pesky perimeter defender but he wont help against carmelo, durant, kobe, brandon roy, tyreke evans those guys got a good mix of offensive moves,now who he would be able to stop is a guy like stephon curry a non physical shooter i never said he was garbage but i did say he was equal to julian wright if he was given the minutes i also said that pondexter is a much aggressive and sure defender than ariza

jrdbrn · 08-11-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wnelson

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss...dg_smoref_face

just in! and another good trade for us!

This is better news than any. Couldn't wait to get rid of the klutz.

jlam · 08-11-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by earl_con_queso504

yea i just take that as u dont watch much lakers basketball,i think if julian wright was ever given the oppurtunity by byron scott you would see

can julian wright occasionally knock down a 3?

Only in the sense that I could occasionally knock down a 3 if they left me wide-*** open (and I have a much prettier jump shot, I promise). Ariza consistently shoots in the mid-upper 30 percentile range from deep, and that's with people actually closing out on him since they respect his shot. Not laying 12 feet off him praying he heaves the ball in the direction of the basket.

So in short, no.

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can julian wright run fast,jump high,and have electrifying dunks?

Only during those brief stretches where he's not literally tripping over his own feet like a newborn giraffe. Even if the answer is assumed to be yes, you need some actual skills to pair with those traits. Usain Bolt probably sucks at basketball.

So no, or irrelevant. Take your pick.

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can julian wright play decent defense against a teams bench wing players?

No, because of the reasons listed above coupled with the fact that he probably has a hard time remembering what the jersey number is of the guy he's supposed to be guarding.

Yeah he has nice length and can be a disruptive 1 on 1 defender at times, but his team defense still isn't that great and he doesn't anticipate passes nearly as well as Ariza. One of these two players was number six in the league in steals last year and it wasn't the guy who never played.

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if the answer is yes to all these youve painted yourself a great picture of trevor ariza

Yeah that didn't work out so well.

vandelay · 08-12-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by earl_con_queso504

yea they won but he still couldnt keep up with a teams star 2 or 3,people are gettin the idea that he is a defensive animal he is a pesky perimeter defender but he wont help against carmelo, durant, kobe, brandon roy, tyreke evans those guys got a good mix of offensive moves,now who he would be able to stop is a guy like stephon curry a non physical shooter i never said he was garbage but i did say he was equal to julian wright if he was given the minutes i also said that pondexter is a much aggressive and sure defender than ariza

we had Peja starting at SF and it's hard to believe Ariza is worse than him. I'll take my chances with Ariza before sending Peja out there. SF seemingly was our weakest defensive position (not much better than PF, but you get the picture).

Julian was given the minutes at the beginning of last year. He couldn't hack it. If he was this defensive genius, then why could he not get much playing time over 3 years? He was gifted the starter job last year and was garbage, it was proven. There's no theoretical "if he was given the minutes", because he was given the minutes.

vanakin · 08-14-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by earl_con_queso504

ariza would come off the bench for sure,but ariza aint that good they lost a future all star pg for a guy thats a lil better than julian wright this trade wont make chris paul wanna stay

Just another idiot earl post.

Dude said he was gonna "come to laffy and give me what I want" when I told him I would whup him if he came to my city. Now I would prolly just get him arrested by my relatives, then whup him. Ain't the south great? well, for some of us it is.

What a tool........