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Old 02-24-2013, 10:56 AM   #43
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This could actually be an interesting thread if people would stop using it to make fun of the op. It certainly is worth noting that for whatever reason Beyonce and other contemporaries have decided to use satanic imagery and symbolism. And it isn't in the tongue in cheek style of acdc or ozzy.

Now I'm not saying they are possessed or represent a threat to society. But it could make for a good discussion.

ha, and you made fun of me for watching professional wrestling
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It would appear that the symbols on the shirts represented money more than anything else and the triangle hand symbol is probably the same. BTW, I couldn't find any current articles on clothing in Jay-Z's line sporting those symbols. Beyonce's goat head shirt was in 2008, I think, and was probably some fashion designer's idea to seem edgy and hip for her 2008 album. Moving on, nothing to see here.....

Oh, and Kanye definitely takes himself too seriously.
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I wonder how many goofy illuminati videos they are on YouTube right now. Gotta be in the 6 digits area.

I saw one a while back trying to convince people that Michael Jordan was an illuminati devil worshiper. One of the reasons was because he played for the Bulls and that their colors are "red and blue". Which have ties to satanic rituals.
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ha, and you made fun of me for watching professional wrestling
No, I didn't.

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No it doesn't. Jay-Z named Rockafella records after Rockefeller because it symbolized money and was a bad pun.

The symbol is from our money, once again symbolizing money.

The internet started the illuminatti rumors (because of the symbol) so Jay-Z and the rest ran with the free press.

It is a boring story.
Well that's a reasonable take I suppose. Though I'm not sure a mimicking of monetary symbols explains some of the extent to which we have seen. Look, I'm not claiming any sort of conspiracy or secret society or whatever. I just think it is interesting that some of these artists have aligned themselves with those ideas and images.

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I didn't watch the YouTube video, I will admit. But check out some of the music videos by kanye west. I find it interesting that they have decided to use this sort of imagery.

Do you know how a black dude can convince a bunch of corn-fed, midwestern white folks to listen to crummy music?

Any idea how to make some backwoods Alabama redneck talk about Beyonce?

You want to know how to market black things to white folks?


Slap a pentagram on it and dress it in black leather.

SOLD!
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Do you know how a black dude can convince a bunch of corn-fed, midwestern white folks to listen to crummy music?

Any idea how to make some backwoods Alabama redneck talk about Beyonce?

You want to know how to market black things to white folks?


Slap a pentagram on it and dress it in black leather.

SOLD!
How does that help sell to white people? Maybe it does. I guess I'm not the target audience. Just curious as to why.

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The African-American and hip hop community has been obsessed with illuminati conspiracy theories for decades. It's rooted in NYC and the strong presence the Black Isrealites and other paranoia groups have in certain neighborhoods.

Once the Internet hit these communities, it exploded. Jay-Z grew up with these guys on every corner.

Google the rapper Prodigy from Mobb Deep. He has been talking this nonsense for 20 years.

It isn't about enticing white people as much as a general trolling of society.

Conspiracy theories came out claiming Jay-Z is one of the most powerful people in the world due to his high ranking in the Illuminatti.
Given that boasting is the very root of hip hop and powerful figures have always been adopted by hip hop artists as alter egos, why wouldn't Jay-Z run with it?
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Just for the sake of discussion, let's assume that Beyonce and Jay-Z really are Satanists.
So what?
What difference would it make?
Those who are entertained by them will continue to buy their music.
Those who aren't entertained by them will continue to ignore them.
Now what?
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How does that help sell to white people? Maybe it does. I guess I'm not the target audience. Just curious as to why.

Same as Black Sabbath, Kiss or Slayer.

Only modernized for hip hop sales.
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OP, you don't think it's highly more likely that she has no idea what those symbols mean?
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t certainly is worth noting that for whatever reason Beyonce and other contemporaries have decided to use satanic imagery and symbolism. And it isn't in the tongue in cheek style of acdc or ozzy.
Good clean Christians, right?


The video was laughable. Stop trying to make it serious.
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OP, you don't think it's highly more likely that she has no idea what those symbols mean?

Not a chance. I explained why.



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