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Old 04-21-2017, 10:18 AM   #1
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As the Seas Around Them Rise, Louisiana Fishermen Deny Climate Change

I am intentionally placing this on the Everything Else board (and not the Politics board)-- because climate change (and the science that shows man's effect on it) is not political, it's fact.



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Cameron, Louisiana (CNN) People live and die by the water in southern Louisiana.

The Gulf of Mexico, the rivers, lakes, and massive marshes that look more like sea than land, are woven into their identity. They're always there.

The water brings food, livelihoods and culture. But it also takes. Rising seas have swallowed more than 1,800 miles of coastline in the last 78 years, according to the United States Geological Survey.

That puts residents here at the forefront of areas affected by climate changes. But among four people who spend most of the day outside, whose lives are dependent on the weather, who stare at the same horizon each day, there is little agreement on what climate change will bring, or even if it exists. Leo Dotson is among the skeptics. He's been shrimping in Cameron Parish, Louisiana, for 54 years and he'll admit the coastline has changed.....



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Fact or not, it's still an important political topic.

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I am intentionally placing this on the Everything Else board (and not the Politics board)-- because climate change (and the science that shows man's effect on it) is not political, it's fact.








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Wow, what an intentionally misleading piece by CNN with a lot of editing.

They keep talking about deniers but most of them weren't denying anything. They were simply saying there are a whole lot of factors at play with plenty of Scientific evidence backing them up.

Changing the course of the Ms river, oil companies digging canals and several of the most powerful hurricanes ever recorded in the past decade really worked over the coast. The satellite images looping over 50 years is telling. Take away the record hurricane stretch in the mid 2000's though and it's not that bad.

With that said, climate change is playing a part but I don't even think it's a top 3-4 factor in South La.

It's stupid pieces like this that are intentionally misleading to push an agenda that cause people to reject the idea all together.
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With that said, climate change is playing a part but I don't even think it's a top 3-4 factor in South La.
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why the ranking? what does it matter? all the contributing factors must be dealt with if we're going to hold on to SELa
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Wow, what an intentionally misleading piece by CNN with a lot of editing.

They keep talking about deniers but most of them weren't denying anything. They were simply saying there are a whole lot of factors at play with plenty of Scientific evidence backing them up.

Changing the course of the Ms river, oil companies digging canals and several of the most powerful hurricanes ever recorded in the past decade really worked over the coast. The satellite images looping over 50 years is telling. Take away the record hurricane stretch in the mid 2000's though and it's not that bad.

With that said, climate change is playing a part but I don't even think it's a top 3-4 factor in South La.

It's stupid pieces like this that are intentionally misleading to push an agenda that cause people to reject the idea all together.

People keep repeating this like it's common knowledge, but could someone explain what this obviously nefarious "agenda" really is? To transition Americans to working an enormous amount of clean energy jobs?


Nobody thus far has been able to answer it.
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Happy (early) Earth Day, fellow Earthlings!! Let's celebrate our planet by standing for science, reason and conserving the only home we've ever known..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PN5JJDh78I&t=28s
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People keep repeating this like it's common knowledge, but could someone explain what this obviously nefarious "agenda" really is? To transition Americans to working an enormous amount of clean energy jobs?


Nobody thus far has been able to answer it.
Are you saying climate change isn't a politically charged topic?
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why the ranking? what does it matter? all the contributing factors must be dealt with if we're going to hold on to SELa
Don't get mad at me, get mad at CNN ignoring all the other factors at play here. They are attempting to mislead people into thinking the gulf is rising at such a fast pace due solely to sea level rises associated with man made global warming while the people it's impacting are deniers. They even use that word denier several times while doing some serious editing.

The one time they mention the other factors they make it sound like it's some sort of mythical tin foil conspiracy and don't deliver a single fact on the matter to create a click bait POS.

Defending that spew isn't like trying to polish a turd, it's like trying to polish diarrhea.


It angers me because CNN has decided to go the way of Faux News and cater to ratings and a political party with click bait garbage and biased commentary catered solely to the close minded. I get offended when they try to make Louisiana look dumb. Hell, we don't need the help there.
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Don't get mad at me, get mad at CNN ignoring all the other factors at play here. They are attempting to mislead people into thinking the gulf is rising at such a fast pace due solely to sea level rises associated with man made global warming while the people it's impacting are deniers. They even use that word denier several times while doing some serious editing.

The one time they mention the other factors they make it sound like it's some sort of mythical tin foil conspiracy and don't deliver a single fact on the matter to create a click bait POS.

Defending that spew isn't like trying to polish a turd, it's like trying to polish diarrhea.


It angers me because CNN has decided to go the way of Faux News and cater to ratings and a political party with click bait garbage and biased commentary catered solely to the close minded. I get offended when they try to make Louisiana look dumb. Hell, we don't need the help there.
They won't get mad at CNN, because CNN is pushing an agenda they support. And if they have to do it with some fake news and misleading edits then that is perfectly ok.
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They won't get mad at CNN, because CNN is pushing an agenda they support. And if they have to do it with some fake news and misleading edits then that is perfectly ok.
Wait are you actually trying to imply that CNN supports industries' effort to carve up the land leading to coastal erosion so they bury the lead so they can harp on industry contributing to sea level rise?

It's like yall don't even listen to yourselves
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I agree that climate change has been politicized. But it wasn't scientists who politicized it, look no further than the massive oil corporations and the politicians who are in their pockets.
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