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04-28-2012, 10:23 AM
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Office Computer Wiring Question
I had my dental office wired for computer networking 12 years ago when it was built. Yesterday my computer people came to actually install the network and said it was not possible. It was wired with Cat 5 wiring and the phone and data cables were all tied together. All to computer access points tested possitive with a toner. meaning they got a dial tone on all of them. They are telling me I have to have all new wiring installed AGAIN! My question is how this could happen? Was there a technology change in the years since it was installed? The two companies I could think of that would do the wiring said they did not do it.
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04-28-2012, 11:54 AM
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party lamp
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That doesn't make sense. Unless cables were cut, if it was wired properly originally, you should still be good.
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04-28-2012, 12:20 PM
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Buzd,
Probably because I don't know I thing about this technolgy and I am not explaining it correctly. The tech person did say something about cut and twisted together (maybe?). All I know is that it happened at the time of installation because no wires have been added since then except for a Sirius radio receiver. The tech guy tried to show me, but all I saw was 5 bundles of wires groups coming out of the wall outlet where the server was to go. He told me possibly it could be separated, but I risked losing phone service. He recommended just to rewire. I have already spent a small fortune on computer hardware and this addition problem has hit hard. I wish I knew who did this. I will call the builder Monday but I doubt he has records from that long ago. Does the telephone company ever install computer lines? Maybe they did the phone and computer wiring at the same time.
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04-28-2012, 04:54 PM
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It is what it is
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They probably ran 1 line for data and phone. You only need 4 wires for ethernet, but there must have been some serious degradation.
4 for computer, 2 for phone, 2 spare.
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04-30-2012, 06:25 PM
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Every person I get in to look at the situation gives me another story. One today said that ALL the wires are phone wires and that there are no data wires. He says I need to rewire with data and phone lines. Another told me the problem is that they are all connected to the external phone line and they just have to figure out which ones to disconnect and then I should be fine. The data on these computers are important (medical records) so they need to be reliable, but then again, do I need to spend the $1500 to rewire the whole office? I want to do the right thing but I have no knowledge to base a decision on. Any suggestions? Our phone lines are acting up too, so I am leaning towards the rewire. (The other guy says if they disconnect the extra wires from the phone, it may correct the phone problem by default. Argh!!!!)
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04-30-2012, 09:22 PM
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party lamp
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In the long run it will save you a lot of time, money, and grief to just pull it all out and get it done right.
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04-30-2012, 11:17 PM
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is it an option to just use a wireless network?
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04-30-2012, 11:23 PM
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Sudden Death Superstar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doctorj
Another told me the problem is that they are all connected to the external phone line and they just have to figure out which ones to disconnect and then I should be fine.
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assuming its all CAT5 this sounds right to me.
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05-01-2012, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkmowad
is it an option to just use a wireless network?
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It is not a good option due to the size of the files and reliability? ( I think that was the reason.)
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05-01-2012, 07:21 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I will let you know what I decide. It has to be soon because the intermitent phone service is a real daily aggravation.
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05-01-2012, 08:09 AM
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party lamp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doctorj
It is not a good option due to the size of the files and reliability? ( I think that was the reason.)
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I tend to agree with that. Going all wireless will cause you other headaches that you don't want to deal with.
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05-01-2012, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buzd
In the long run it will save you a lot of time, money, and grief to just pull it all out and get it done right.
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I agree those lines need to be separate as to avoid same problem in future maybe go cat6 with 1gb routers being the current flavor
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05-01-2012, 12:12 PM
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Thank you all! I decided this AM on the complete rewiring. They are coming tomorrow to do the work. It is nice to have the weight of that decision off my back. Again THANK YOU!
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05-01-2012, 04:01 PM
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We'll take care of you. See you in the morning
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05-02-2012, 10:55 PM
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man I wish I had found this thread sooner. I do network and communication for a living, I have lots of questions about the original install.
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