AnnDRomney v Hillary Rosen

[Cosmic201]

“I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids

- Ann Romney

[El Caliente]

“I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

Ann Romney

[Cosmic201]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

Ann Romney

"My career choice was to be a mother," she said Thursday in an interview on Fox News. "We need to respect choices that women make."

I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids.

A poor choice of words for that sentence? Sure.

That didn't stop anyone from attacking Hilary Rosen for the having a poor choice of words in one sentence as well.

It goes back to reinforcing Rosen's point that Ann Romney is not the voice of the average American woman like Mitt Romney claims her to be. Ann Romney had the choice of being a stay at home mom when most women do not and more are finding that choice taken away by the need for more financial support for their family.

[Cosmic201]

Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

But let's dissect the rest of the quote as well.

What value are they placing in 'those people'?
Mitt Romney wants to cut the safety net 'those people' fall back on when they find themselves unable to work. He wants to cut Medicare and social security while raising the budget for the military (more than even other GOP military hawks want).

Is that placing value?

Speaks the words, but do they match the actions?

[El Caliente]

So are we up in arms because she believes every mother (stay at home or otherwise) has their own individual issues? Or are we up in arms because she is greatful for mothers of all types? I am so confused, after reading what you are trying to pass off as a hidden meaning.

When did he talk about cutting the safety net? Can you not fix a broken net? Who says get rid of it? I thought he said fix.

[Cosmic201]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

So are we up in arms because she believes every mother (stay at home or otherwise) has their own individual issues? Or are we up in arms because she is greatful for mothers of all types? I am so confused, after reading what you are trying to pass off as a hidden meaning.

When did he talk about cutting the safety net? Can you not fix a broken net? Who says get rid of it? I thought he said fix.

We're not up in arms about mothers at all.
Republicans, and you, are the ones trying to spin it like we are.

We are, and I've repeatedly stated this several times in this tread, pointing out that Mitt Romney saying he knows the concerns of women in this country because he talks to his wife doesn't mean his wife understands the concerns of women in this country.

I've reiterated that point several times. You've ignored it each time and tried to spin it as an attack on an ill stay-at-home mom.


If you can not even stay abreast to Mitt Romney's budget plans, maybe you shouldn't be in here defending them.


Mitt Romney promised to not touch Social Security for current retirees and the same for current Medicare.
He also said he'll raise defense spending to 4% of the United States GDP. Our last budget at that spending at around 3.3%. That's about a 61% increase to military spending compared to what Obama is spending.

Couple this with his plans to give more tax cuts and his promise to cut spending by 20%.
So if he's cutting spending by 20% where is that coming from?

Medicaid and other social protection for the poor or the so called safety net.

[El Caliente]

Romney has a lot of plans, but hasn't got a set way on how to get there yet. Like most politicians he is throwing things against the wall and seeing what sticks (hence the reason he refuses to give details on most of his plans).Add in the fact about Romney agreeing with Obama on student loans, and making college education affordable, what is it that upsets you? Do you not go outside because of fear of what might happen should you leave your home? Sure be scared because he is a Republican and you vote Democrat, but don't be afraid because you think he is going to ruin the country on some baseless rumors, or reading too far between the lines. Then your just asking to be scared.

I don't know how you can keep harping on this Ann Romney doesn't understand the concerns of mothers (as if you do from your extensive time as a mother). Is compassion a foreign feeling that only a few can feel? Did the freedom riders lack compassion when they came south to help African Americans? The freedom riders had nothing in common with those they were serving, yet nobody is going to tell you they didn't show compassion, so why is it hard to believe that Ann Romney can't have compassion and understanding for fellow mothers.

And drop the whole, dissecting what people say things. You are getting her and her husband confused, and what her husband says with what liberal bloggers say. The "dissecting a story" that your doing isn't even on par with what John Barr just did to the Saints. You just pulled something out of thin air, and tried making something more out of it than it really was. Ann Romney said she was thankful for all mothers in all circumstances (making sacrifices of different types for their families). That is all she said, and that is probably one of the reasons she is more popular than her husband (much like Michelle Obama is more popular than her husband).

I don't understand people some times. They are in a quick hurry to say somebody has a war on women, and then refuse to say that they themselves have a war on women. If you want to drop the Republican war on women shtick I am sure Republicans would be willing to drop the Democrat war on women.

But please expound on the disconnect.