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01-03-2012, 05:08 PM
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Pro-Bowler
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Originally Posted by dtradin
But, I don't for a second think he'd go into Iran with boots and tanks like Bush and the warmongers did in Iraq.
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Naive. He's already started a war with a 3rd country. Why would he stop now?
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01-03-2012, 05:30 PM
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#272
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BIRTH CONTROL IS IMMORAL
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 17,677
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
This. This and the fact that the energy industry wants the straits open, and the vote of Exxon/Mobile counts much more than that of the 99%.
I read a joke on twitter today, only it was more sad than funny. You can tell monopoly is an old game, because it has a luxury tax and rich people can go to jail.
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Do the 99% not want reasonably cheap gas and energy costs?
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01-03-2012, 06:12 PM
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#273
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BIRTH CONTROL IS IMMORAL
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If Paul can win tonight - I think he certainly can win the nomination. I mean its still an uphill climb for him. What would really help if the social conservatives solidly got behind someone - like Santorum, and kept Santorum in it for a good while. Likewise, he would be helped if Gingrich could somehow trug along - maybe Gingrich could win South Carolina with Paul coming in second or something.
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01-03-2012, 06:18 PM
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Subscribing Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by JimEverett
If Paul can win tonight - I think he certainly can win the nomination. I mean its still an uphill climb for him. What would really help if the social conservatives solidly got behind someone - like Santorum, and kept Santorum in it for a good while. Likewise, he would be helped if Gingrich could somehow trug along - maybe Gingrich could win South Carolina with Paul coming in second or something.
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Mike Huckabee won the Iowa caucuses in 08, followed by Romney.
I'm not sure this is the game changer people think it is.
Certainly Paul has climbed up from the fringe level of support he received in 08 but I still think he's a bigger longshot than anyone but Huntsman and Bachman.
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01-03-2012, 06:20 PM
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#275
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BIRTH CONTROL IS IMMORAL
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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco
Mike Huckabee won the Iowa caucuses in 08, followed by Romney.
I'm not sure this is the game changer people think it is.
Certainly Paul has climbed up from the fringe level of support he received in 08 but I still think he's a bigger longshot than anyone but Huntsman and Bachman.
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It can be a game changer. I mean I understand what you are saying, but at the same time you never know what type of momentum a candidate may get. Certainly Obama would not be President now had he not won Iowa.
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01-03-2012, 06:37 PM
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Super Forum Fanatic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: KANSAS CITY
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Paul is leading currently at 29%
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01-03-2012, 06:39 PM
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BIRTH CONTROL IS IMMORAL
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Originally Posted by theicebox
Paul is leading currently at 29%
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I did not think the caucuses began till 7 PM
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01-03-2012, 06:40 PM
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#278
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Patriotic Sin Pillows
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Redneck Riviera
Age: 45
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Originally Posted by tjharris
Naive. He's already started a war with a 3rd country. Why would he stop now?
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Really? We're at war? Where?
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01-03-2012, 06:54 PM
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Hall-of-Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Pensacola, FL
Age: 25
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Originally Posted by theicebox
Paul is leading currently at 29%
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Where did you find that?
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01-03-2012, 07:14 PM
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Hall-of-Famer
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01-03-2012, 08:24 PM
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All-Pro
Join Date: Aug 2001
Age: 47
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Originally Posted by JimEverett
Do the 99% not want reasonably cheap gas and energy costs?
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That's silly of course they do. I was speaking more for getting involved in yet another conflict involving policing people we don't really care about. I might support a limited targeting of specific resources there but not another occupation with our guys on the ground dying.
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01-03-2012, 09:04 PM
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Super Forum Fanatic
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Location: KANSAS CITY
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http://2012newhampshireprimary.com/r...ry-straw-poll/
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Ron Paul finished with 1,844 votes (28%) to win the second to last 2012 New Hampshire Primary online straw poll. Jon Huntsman finished in a surprising second with 24% edging out hometown favorite Mitt Romney who finished in third with 23%. Newt Gingrich finished in fourth with a respectable 12%.
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Well if anyone is interested in New Hampshire
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01-03-2012, 09:10 PM
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BIRTH CONTROL IS IMMORAL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
That's silly of course they do. I was speaking more for getting involved in yet another conflict involving policing people we don't really care about. I might support a limited targeting of specific resources there but not another occupation with our guys on the ground dying.
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Keeping the Straight of Hormuz open does not equate to occupying Iran with troops on the ground, does it?
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01-03-2012, 11:10 PM
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Super Forum Fanatic
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This makes me sad.
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01-04-2012, 09:25 AM
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Super Forum Fanatic
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SE, Louisiana
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Question for the ron paul supporters:
If Paul is not the nominee, will you support the eventual nominee ?
Obviously the Paul support is real. It is also growing. Ignoring it would be a mistake imo. The other guys differ in one way or another but Romney looks like the real "anti-paul".
So how will the paul folks handle a non paul nomination?
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