Is Mitt Romney a Criminal?

[Saintshizzle]

Originally Posted by purvis_guy

Is Romney a criminal? No, but Tim Geithner and Eric Holder are.

This is the second time, in as many days, that someone mentions Dadsdreams.

[Brown]

I'm not a big fan of Romney. I do not think he is a criminal though. Not even remotely. I think he is a goody too shoes.

I think obama is desperately looking to control the discussion. Its politics of personal destruction. Typical of democrats. Throw out the accusations and plant the seed. Keep your opponent on his heels. Make him defensive.
Obama is a nasty player.

Again i don't much care for Romney but i hope he drags obama through the mud in a big way.

The high road ain't gonna work.

[champ76]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

Why was the event held in Switzerland and not the US?

Outsourcing.

[BHM]

Originally Posted by dtc

You'd have to ask my wife if you wanted to see my returns 'cause I wouldn't have the slightest idea where they were, but you're right. My returns might make Brown, Bobad and IS a little queezy, but there's not 1000s of pages to peruse and draw conclusions from.

I suspect Romney made the conscious choice to take the hit from being secretive rather than provide months of fuel for the fire and when you've got $400 mil invested hither and yon, there's bound to be something you own that someone will take offense to. And, for all he knows, Romney probably owns shares in a company that provides equipment or supplies to abortion providers, sells materials to illegal alien importers or might be developing property that endangers mudskippers. Better secretive than sorry.

Plus rep just for using the words hither and yon.

[Blackcricket]

Originally Posted by wcklink

Well how about Romney the secretive one releases 6 years of tax returns in return for Obama the transparent releases his college transcripts and applications. Seems fair to me.

Is it really the same?

Where you decide to put your money and the influence it has would describe a bit more powerfully your allegiance than a transcript.

Even Romney's own dad reasoning for releasing 12 years of tax returns sounds reasonable. "One year could be a fluke done for show."

[texasjefe]

Saying the issue is only about outsourcing is barely scratching the surface.

Which is it Willard? Did he lie under oath in Massachusetts where he said he attended board meetings, to prove residency to run for governor? Did he lie to the SEC in his many corporate filings that he signed off on as President, CEO, and sole Shareholder - by now asserting as strongly as he can "he was not involved with Bain?"

And let's see those tax returns from 1999-2002 to make sure he reported all of his Bain/Bain subsidiary earnings. Or maybe there were none to report, because he was not involved.

Look, I'll grant that the election isn't really decided until the likely voters start paying attention in October, but Mitt's historical pattern for double-talking sure is growing legs on these many related issues.

It's no secret he's thrown alot of fellow Republicans under the bus with his mega-money attack ads - but when you've got George Will and Bill Kristol now calling for him to release his tax returns, looks like the bus is backing up onto Mitt.

[El Caliente]

So because his dad did it he should? How many of us do what our parents did? Prior to the 1980's sitting an infant in the front seat of the car and not having a child's seat were very common. Are any of us sitting our small children in the front seat, or not putting them in car seats when we travel? No, things have changed, the rules have changed. We don't do what our parents do and it turns out to be ok (see JFK). When his father decided to do it he was under a different political than what his son is in. Back then when his father did it there weren't spin networks trying to break every little thing down and trying to make him out to be evil for it, the same doesn't happen now. Now you have loose cannons saying Romney isn't fit to be President because he doesn't drink or smoke.

If you are moved to vote by how somebody makes their money as opposed to their planned policy then vote for Barry.

[dtc]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

So because his dad did it he should? How many of us do what our parents did? Prior to the 1980's sitting an infant in the front seat of the car and not having a child's seat were very common. Are any of us sitting our small children in the front seat, or not putting them in car seats when we travel? No, things have changed, the rules have changed. We don't do what our parents do and it turns out to be ok (see JFK). When his father decided to do it he was under a different political than what his son is in. Back then when his father did it there weren't spin networks trying to break every little thing down and trying to make him out to be evil for it, the same doesn't happen now. Now you have loose cannons saying Romney isn't fit to be President because he doesn't drink or smoke.

If you are moved to vote by how somebody makes their money as opposed to their planned policy then vote for Barry.

people learn. We improve. Sure, we all don't do the same as our parents. Cigarettes are no longer considered health food and despite conservative objections, seatbelts and ABS save lives.

The issue is simply that Romney's dad was right. He made a good point that 1 year could be a fluke. It's an exceptionally relevant point when you consider his son's profession, the qualifications he's running on and his political positions.

He can't take his dad's advice precisely because his dad was correct and one year won't show the whole truth so he's screwed into a position where he has to take the lick for being secretive and for not revealing that which his dad made such a big deal about.

[IntenseSaint]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

So because his dad did it he should? How many of us do what our parents did? Prior to the 1980's sitting an infant in the front seat of the car and not having a child's seat were very common. Are any of us sitting our small children in the front seat, or not putting them in car seats when we travel? No, things have changed, the rules have changed. We don't do what our parents do and it turns out to be ok (see JFK). When his father decided to do it he was under a different political than what his son is in. Back then when his father did it there weren't spin networks trying to break every little thing down and trying to make him out to be evil for it, the same doesn't happen now. Now you have loose cannons saying Romney isn't fit to be President because he doesn't drink or smoke.

If you are moved to vote by how somebody makes their money as opposed to their planned policy then vote for Barry.

While I think the Bain attacks are unwarranted and even more interesting how the Obama campaign gladly accepts money from top level Bain executive bundlers (which nobody has addressed my questions regarding this), I still don't see why Romney won't release all his tax returns, unless he has something he wants to hide.

[El Caliente]

I believe Romney is giving he US populace more credit than they deserve in not coming out with his tax returns. I guess he believes a man should run on policy rather than 14 year old tax returns.

Is anyone in a hurry to answer why Obama his a ok with accepting money from people he bashes on (like the ones at Bain for example)? I didnt think so either.

[dtc]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

I believe Romney is giving he US populace more credit than they deserve in not coming out with his tax returns. I guess he believes a man should run on policy rather than 14 year old tax returns.

Is anyone in a hurry to answer why Obama his a ok with accepting money from people he bashes on (like the ones at Bain for example)? I didnt think so either.

Come on, please.

What policy has Mitt espoused? Aside from the typical Republican boilerplate , what policy? Give me some specifics.

Where's the meat to cut all these taxes and still cut the deficit?

Where's this magical fix education without any money?

Where's the plan to replace Obamacare with free market solutions when the only solution Romney's ever come up with is, in fact, Obamneycare?

How's he going to create jobs be cutting taxes for people who don't create jobs?

How's he going to level a trade war with China with his right hand and sign the promissory note to borrow the money to double military spending and why in the freaking world would China continue to loan us money to build up our military?

Romney's got no policy. And, if he has, he's hiding it from the base because it won't fly.

[woohoosaint]

Obama didn't produce a birth certificate until almost a year into his presidency ( after he had been accused,for almost 2 years,of not being born here )
Pot...meet the kettle

[mister pc]

Originally Posted by El Caliente

I believe Romney is giving he US populace more credit than they deserve in not coming out with his tax returns. I guess he believes a man should run on policy rather than 14 year old tax returns.

Is anyone in a hurry to answer why Obama his a ok with accepting money from people he bashes on (like the ones at Bain for example)? I didnt think so either.

Romney is basing his candidacy on the economy, and is pointing to his tenure at Bain as primary evidence of his economic credentials. He IS essentially running on his 14 year old tax returns as one of his main selling points. Romney's success at Bain is the centerpiece of his resume for POTUS (he has chosen to emphasize his private sector accomplishments far more than political career as an elected official).

How Mitt Romney made his money is clearly a campaign issue, because his own campaign is relying on his profitable business career to justify voting for him. So it's certainly not irrelevant

[champ76]

Originally Posted by mister pc

Romney is basing his candidacy on the economy, and is pointing to his tenure at Bain as primary evidence of his economic credentials. He IS essentially running on his 14 year old tax returns as one of his main selling points. Romney's success at Bain is the centerpiece of his resume for POTUS (he has chosen to emphasize his private sector accomplishments far more than political career as an elected official).

How Mitt Romney made his money is clearly a campaign issue, because his own campaign is relying on his profitable business career to justify voting for him. So it's certainly not irrelevant

By your logic, we should be examining Bain's tax returns, not Romney's. I cannot stand this drumbeat every four years for tax records, military records, health records, school records, personal records of any kind that have no bearing whatsoever on the candidate's ability to lead.

If a candidate makes them relevant, then they are fair game. If not, let it go. It's a senseless distraction.

God knows I didn't need to know Clinton took a charitable deduction for his donated used underwear.

[Griffin-Long]

Romney is Capitalist scum and Obama is a marxist Kenyan...or so that is what Fox and MSNBC tell me. Oh, also that Ron Paul is crazy.