Msnbc

[TheDeuce53]

I was watching the Olympics the other week, and after it ended Al Sharpton's show came on.

I had forgotten Sharpton was given a show there. I watched the first 30 seconds and almost threw up before changing the channel.

[MLU]

Originally Posted by EricC.

I try to watch this network, just to get a different view of what Fox and CNN put out. It is absolutely horrible. This guy Lawrence O'Donnell is a complete tool. The woman that's on there (can't remember her name) isn't too bad. Does anyone watch this network religiously????

I question the intelligence of anyone who watches ANY cable news network religiously.

[zatsnzapps]

Originally Posted by SoonerJim

Current tV

I actually like a lot of the documentaries and original programming from Current TV. The investigative special that they did on the efforts and risks that Mexicans take to enter into the country was really well done.

The best 50 documentaries series that they did was great too.

I've never watched any of their political talk shows.

[EricC.]

Originally Posted by MLU

I question the intelligence of anyone who watches ANY cable news network religiously.

I didn't mean it literally. I guess i was wondering if anyone actually watches these idiots in the primetime hours on a nightly basis.

I know a lot of people here don't like Bill O'reilly, but he has a lot of followers. And i don't find him as far right as most people claim that he is. He is on the right, definitely. But he does take up for Obama more than anyone on that network. Defends him quite often actually.

[Brown]

Originally Posted by thegoldenapple

Not to mention he can just recycle that money through closely related charities and getting "benefits" from those charities. Charity doesn't get roads paved or build bridges.

I see the bill maher talking points are in full swing...

What romney or you or anyone gives to charity is not money that would go to the feds so what do yoi or dtc care what we guve to charity?

Romney gives to the mormon church about a third of the total he gives to charity. About a million bucks. He gives @2mil to other good causes. He makes over 20mil a year. He pays about 13% of that to the feds. About 2.6million bucks. Thats a lot of money. And what does he get in return? Grief from The less fortunate. The amount he pays in taxes Will never be enough to some so why even bother responding to the whiners?

Roads don't get paid by income taxation anyway. But starving kids and families get aide from the mormon church. Houses get built by habitat. Clothes get provided to low income families. And he doesn't get votes in return.

How mich did obama give to charity? 1%? Wow. What an inspiration.

[Soundwave]

Originally Posted by dtc

Giving money to the church or charity is not equivalent to paying taxes and, in fact, I don't even see how the discussion of charitable contributions comes into the conversation. Frankly, giving money to the is actually one of the tools he uses as a tax deductible expense enabling him to pay less.

Correct, that money might actually go to a good cause rather than a politician's pockets.


*onlyhalfjoking*

[Soundwave]

Originally Posted by TheDeuce53

I was watching the Olympics the other week, and after it ended Al Sharpton's show came on.

I had forgotten Sharpton was given a show there. I watched the first 30 seconds and almost threw up before changing the channel.

That's funny cause I bet the same thing happened to me.

I feel asleep during the men's basketball and woke up to Al Sharpton. I thought it was a nightmare.

[Soundwave]

Originally Posted by Brown

I see the bill maher talking points are in full swing...

What romney or you or anyone gives to charity is not money that would go to the feds so what do yoi or dtc care what we guve to charity?

Romney gives to the mormon church about a third of the total he gives to charity. About a million bucks. He gives @2mil to other good causes. He makes over 20mil a year. He pays about 13% of that to the feds. About 2.6million bucks. Thats a lot of money. And what does he get in return? Grief from The less fortunate. The amount he pays in taxes Will never be enough to some so why even bother responding to the whiners?

Roads don't get paid by income taxation anyway. But starving kids and families get aide from the mormon church. Houses get built by habitat. Clothes get provided to low income families. And he doesn't get votes in return.

How mich did obama give to charity? 1%? Wow. What an inspiration.

It's just a case of people hating the playa instead of the game.

The system is screwed up and needs to be fixed, not the people who use the system that is currently there. I'm no expert on the Simpson-Bowels plan, but I strongly believe an opportunity was missed in eliminating deductions instead of just raising taxes.

[BuffaloSaint]

Originally Posted by Brown

How mich did obama give to charity? 1%? Wow. What an inspiration.

That was from 2000 until 2004 when I believe he was just paying off student loans and about to buy a house. Doesn't make sense to give to charity until you yourself are out of debt. As for Romney isn't it a tenet of his religion to tithe 10%? It seems to me that he's really just doing close to the minimum to stay out of hell.

If you really want to look at the character of these guy's look at what they did after leaving Harvard. Obama could've gone to almost any law firm and made 6 figures but he went to Chicago and helped people whereas Romney used money from Salvadoran drug lords to make piles of money sending US jobs overseas.

[V Chip]

Originally Posted by Brown

Romney gives to the mormon church about a third of the total he gives to charity. About a million bucks. He gives @2mil to other good causes. He makes over 20mil a year. He pays about 13% of that to the feds. About 2.6million bucks.
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How mich did obama give to charity? 1%? Wow. What an inspiration.

Not true.

Romney gave 13.79% to charitable contributions, of which just over 50% went to the Mormon church.

Obama gave 14.18% to charitable contributions, of which just over 55% went to Fisher House (provides free or low cost housing to military/vets who are receiving medical treatment).

[Brown]

Originally Posted by V Chip

Not true.

Romney gave 13.79% to charitable contributions, of which just over 50% went to the Mormon church.

Obama gave 14.18% to charitable contributions, of which just over 55% went to Fisher House (provides free or low cost housing to military/vets who are receiving medical treatment).

What year are you talking about? I hope you're right about obama but i question it so you will have to provide a source. I suspect obama's charitable giving has only come about in recent years. And I dont care if romney gave all charity to the mormons. Its his choice. Who are you etal to criticize where someone gives their money as a legal charitable contribution?

We're off topic here so I hope your source is msnbc which I'd be willing to accept despite their obnoxious bias.

[MLU]

Originally Posted by Brown

What year are you talking about? I hope you're right about obama but i question it so you will have to provide a source. I suspect obama's charitable giving has only come about in recent years. And I dont care if romney gave all charity to the mormons. Its his choice. Who are you etal to criticize where someone gives their money as a legal charitable contribution?

We're off topic here so I hope your source is msnbc which I'd be willing to accept despite their obnoxious bias.

I care if someone gives millions of dollars to an already rich organization committed to spreading it's ignorant message and using it's money/strength to deny basic rights to humans.

I guess the question is why don't you?

[Semper]

Originally Posted by BuffaloSaint

If you can give me valid reasons why you would have a swiss bank account and corporations in the Cayman's that are anything other than hiding income so you don't pay taxes I will agree with you.

Is he breaking any laws? Would you do the same in his position?

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Originally Posted by Brown

I suspect obama's charitable giving has only come about in recent years.

i suspect that you're right-- probably because Barry wasn't born rich and, as mentioned above, as little as 10 yrs ago was still paying off his student loans?

[El Caliente]

From talking about to MSNBC to talking about Romney's wealth. Why does it always end here?