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Old 02-28-2012, 11:41 AM   #1
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Santorum uses robocalls to registered Democrats

urging them to vote for him.

oh, this friggin guy heeya...(Jersey accent please )

Dems are lining up at the polls for this cat. Too much.

Santorum defends robocalls urging Democrats to vote in Michigan GOP primary - latimes.com
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:46 AM   #2
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It's an open primary. Democrats can vote in it. I don't see the problem.

In fact, I think some crafty voters fairly frequently vote in the other party's primary - choosing the candidate they think their own party's candidate will more easily defeat.

And I suppose that's a bit of irony here: true Democrats aren't likely to just go vote for Santorum because they get a robocall, but it may cause some of them to realize that if they think Obama can more easily beat Santorum, that maybe it is a good idea to go try to help Santorum get the nomination.

But I guess that even if that is happening, it still serves Santorum's immediate goal of winning the GOP nomination.
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just curious but why would they have open elections for party primaries?
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The same thing happened when tubby limbaugh had people vote for Hillary in 08
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:32 PM   #5
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just curious but why would they have open elections for party primaries?
Google says that 17 states have open primaries.

I suspect the rationale is that you shouldn't have to formally be a declared member of the party to have to right to vote in a primary. In other words, in theory it allows independents to have a say.

But the counterpoint would be that it also allows the other party voters to vote in it - for potentially illegitimate purposes.

I think both ideas make sense, but the limited one is probably a bit more persuasive, hence you have about 60% of states with closed primaries.
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Anyone who is registered as opposing party and votes for a guy in an open primary that most likely to fail in the general is a tool. I'm sorry to say it but they are tools. Anyone who opposes having the best possible candidates on the debate floor are friggin' tools.
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Well Michael "Haven't seen a piece of food i didn't like" Moore and friends plan on voting for Santorum as part of Operation Hilarity. He said as much on that guy Rachel Maddows show the other day.

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It's an open primary. Democrats can vote in it. I don't see the problem.

In fact, I think some crafty voters fairly frequently vote in the other party's primary - choosing the candidate they think their own party's candidate will more easily defeat.

And I suppose that's a bit of irony here: true Democrats aren't likely to just go vote for Santorum because they get a robocall, but it may cause some of them to realize that if they think Obama can more easily beat Santorum, that maybe it is a good idea to go try to help Santorum get the nomination.

But I guess that even if that is happening, it still serves Santorum's immediate goal of winning the GOP nomination.

which could monkey wrench the GOP. Its an interesting ploy. If nomination is his goal, this works out in his favor.
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I lived in Michigan for 3 years. Half the democrats that get that call will go looking for Obamas name, and half of that number will complain why Obama isn't on the ticket.
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which could monkey wrench the GOP. Its an interesting ploy. If nomination is his goal, this works out in his favor.
Is there any reason to think that nomination isn't his goal?
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Personally I don't understand why states allow closed primaries. Technically each Party can do what it wants to, but I don't see why the state should have to shoulder the cost of the parties selecting which candidate they want to send to the general election. It doesn't benefit anyone who is not a member of the party to help that party select their candidate.
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Anyone who is registered as opposing party and votes for a guy in an open primary that most likely to fail in the general is a tool. I'm sorry to say it but they are tools. Anyone who opposes having the best possible candidates on the debate floor are friggin' tools.
Kind of like the ones who are re-writing voter id laws and gerrymandering districts, right?
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Kind of like the ones who are re-writing voter id laws and gerrymandering districts, right?
Where I live the Republicans have just redrawn my district in the most obscenely absurd manner that in effect negates my vote along with a few thousand other people. So in the spirit of not going to a gun fight with just a butter knife, I think every single Democrat in Michigan should go to the polls and vote for crazy boy Santorum.
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Kind of like the ones who are re-writing voter id laws and gerrymandering districts, right?
Have you seen the rules and requirements in drawing district lines? Leaves little to the imagination but still made up as a big political event.

Also, do you assume I was just attacking the left with my previous statement?
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