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Old 02-24-2013, 01:35 PM   #15
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Is the point that we don't want our money going towards food that is bad for you?

If so, can we extend the law to politicians, firemen, police, teachers, anyone who gets money from the government? If you reduce your tax bill via itemizing and credits, you have to account for exactly where that money went and prove it wasn't to things that are bad for you?

I think we should extend it to sex outside of a legal marriage, too. Oh and speeding. If you have your own vehicle and you get government money, you have to have a car that is regulated and cannot ever go faster than a posted speed limit.

No Saints games!! That's wasteful! No TV, you should be working. If you get money from the government you have to sell your TV. Strict controls on your internet -- no porn or TMZ or blogging or Facebook -- NO SR.COM YOU WASTEFUL SLOTH!!

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So, if the government is providing, then freedom of choice is no longer an option. Noted.
I can't tell the tone of this, but I'm assuming it's a sarcastic jab at governmental control. If so, then I say "under my house, you play by my rules". If the government is giving you the money, then I don't see why it's out of line for them to try to restrict your options, especially when those options are BETTER than the alternative.

If it's not, then...cool.
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I would be in favor of removing items like coca cola from eligible food stamp purchases. I think it's ridiculous that people can purchase soft drinks and candy with foodstamps but not vitamins or toothpaste.
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There are some universally recognized foods as junk and i think those should be restricted.
Probl is that the convenience store lobby is very powerful
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I can't tell the tone of this, but I'm assuming it's a sarcastic jab at governmental control. If so, then I say "under my house, you play by my rules". If the government is giving you the money, then I don't see why it's out of line for them to try to restrict your options, especially when those options are BETTER than the alternative.

If it's not, then...cool.
Sit and think of all of the things the government provides that you use. Police protection, Fire protection, roads, Social Security, etc. Do you really think that removing what little voice people have is the right path to take?

Really?
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I'm fine with this. The entire point of welfare is to help people survive if they can't provide for themselves. Cheetos are not a basic human need or right.
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Sit and think of all of the things the government provides that you use. Police protection, Fire protection, roads, Social Security, etc. Do you really think that removing what little voice people have is the right path to take?

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Yes. I can't get a job that provides any of those other services. I can, and do, work to provide food. BTW, the government already dictates how and when you can use those other services. Why is food stamps any different?
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There are some universally recognized foods as junk and i think those should be restricted.
Probl is that the convenience store lobby is very powerful
These guys are powerful and would stand to lose the most

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Sit and think of all of the things the government provides that you use. Police protection, Fire protection, roads, Social Security, etc. Do you really think that removing what little voice people have is the right path to take?

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Every single one of those things you listed as a list of rules I most follow when using them longer than everything I've typed on this website.


Why should food stamps be somehow exempt?
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Food stamps is already restricted to food. Now all of a sudden someone gets to re-define what is food?

People buy crappy food because 1) it's cheap and 2) it's quick and easy. Personally I don't think it should even be sold to anyone as food, but you just can't redefine what people can eat because of your own ignorant views.
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They already do something similar with the WIC program. You can only buy certain foods (milk, formula, cheese, etc) I think they should restrict certain foods and drink from food stamps. I saw a lady buy two 16oz redbulls with food stamps for $9. I can't belive that anyone would think thats what the program intended.
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Food stamps is already restricted to food. Now all of a sudden someone gets to re-define what is food?

People buy crappy food because 1) it's cheap and 2) it's quick and easy. Personally I don't think it should even be sold to anyone as food, but you just can't redefine what people can eat because of your own ignorant views.

Why should you be allowed to buy alcohol and tobacco with food stamps? Because you can now. Those are defined as food? I think redefining what food is is exactly what this fat, diabetic country needs, and if this is one way to go about that, then cool.
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I think redefining what food is is exactly what this fat, diabetic country needs, and if this is one way to go about that, then cool.
So you're alright with the government telling everyone what they are and aren't allowed to eat then. Because that's kind of the vibe I get from people like you.

You can't legislate personal responsibility, despite whatever fantasies you may hold to the contrary.
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So you're alright with the government telling everyone what they are and aren't allowed to eat then. Because that's kind of the vibe I get from people like you.

You can't legislate personal responsibility, despite whatever fantasies you may hold to the contrary.

Yea cuz that's exactly what I posted.

Let me ask you this. You give your kid $10 and say go buy lunch, he comes back with 2 bags of doritos and a chocolate milk. You're fine with that personal choice?

Also, the "people like you" comment. Didn't realize we knew each other. Or that anything I've said here ever says I think the government should tell me how to do anything.
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