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04-11-2012, 04:08 PM
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Why all the :whitemad:?
Every time any incident comes up where there is a potentially "white on black" racial aspect, why is there this huge rush to find offsetting incidents where a white person was the victim of a black person?
There's one major Trayvon thread on this board (or EE), and there have been around 5 or 6 threads spawned that seek to supply a "what about THIS one?" counterpoint to it. In thread after thread that have nothing to do with race, people say the logically indefensible "if this happened to a black person, this would be on the news 24/7!!"
I'm surprised and yet I'm not surprised because it happens enough, and it's usually the same exact people who bring it up over and over again. But I'm always surprised why the rush to defend and deflect when it has nothing to do with the event? For example: I haven't seen anyone pointing to white-on-black crimes as a deflection in the just posted " Was it because his skin color?" thread (and for the record: I don't think it was solely because of his skin color, but his skin color was a definite large contributing factor along with his state of inebriation).
So why is there always this rush to find an offsetting example when alleged white-on-black racial crimes occur?
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04-11-2012, 04:22 PM
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Um....have you seen what happens when the shoe is on the other foot? Media attention and its imbalance? Lack of coverage....ya know? Just sayin...
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04-11-2012, 04:30 PM
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Because black on white violent crimes are never major news stories and whites are tired of being depicted as the most prejudice race when in reality they are the most hated and unappreciated.
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04-11-2012, 04:31 PM
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It gets aggrevating how the media makes bigger stories for one race over another. In the case of Travon, (sorry I know I spelled it incorrectly), I believe.its really not a race thing, that even if he was white, it would still be all over the media.
But heres a point. Over in oakland a while back there was a parade celebrating a black guy that was killed. They were celebrating him because he killed 3 white cops. T-shirts and all were made about it to support the killers family.
Now, why were the 3 cops after him? He had a warrant out for his arrest for raping and killimg a young black girl that was 8 or 10. Yet this entire neighborhood was celebrating killing people.
The media got wind of it, and hardly anyone reported it, wrote about, or published anything about it.
He was an animal for what he did to that girl, and so is anyone who took part in that parade.
Personally, I beleive the majority of the media stayed away because they feared any backlash of what could be considered or turn into a race war.
Since racism against minoritys is so common in thus countrys history, its easy to report without fear of backlash since even the majority will sympathize with the minority.
But it appears as if thr media chooses to stay away from racism against the majority in fear of backlash.
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04-11-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Saints318
Because black on white violent crimes are never major news stories and whites are tired of being depicted as the most prejudice race when in reality they are the most hated and unappreciated.
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Amazing to me how the white man goes through life with all of that daily hatred and bias. Poor white people.
Oh, I am a white
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04-11-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Saints318
Because black on white violent crimes are never major news stories and whites are tired of being depicted as the most prejudice race when in reality they are the most hated and unappreciated.
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04-11-2012, 04:55 PM
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Amazing to me how the white man goes through life with all of that daily hatred and bias. Poor white people.
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lol!!! No its just the pettiness of people that is funny. Like 1 person shoots a 6'3 17 year old which is tragic now becomes ~("WHITE")~ Hispanic and basically goes in the realm of well, there is still racism. This man zimmerman speaks for the entire white race. Just shut up already.
You have white guilt syndrome.
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04-11-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintBrad
It gets aggrevating how the media makes bigger stories for one race over another. In the case of Travon, (sorry I know I spelled it incorrectly), I believe.its really not a race thing, that even if he was white, it would still be all over the media.
But heres a point. Over in oakland a while back there was a parade celebrating a black guy that was killed. They were celebrating him because he killed 3 white cops. T-shirts and all were made about it to support the killers family.
Now, why were the 3 cops after him? He had a warrant out for his arrest for raping and killimg a young black girl that was 8 or 10. Yet this entire neighborhood was celebrating killing people.
The media got wind of it, and hardly anyone reported it, wrote about, or published anything about it.
He was an animal for what he did to that girl, and so is anyone who took part in that parade.
Personally, I beleive the majority of the media stayed away because they feared any backlash of what could be considered or turn into a race war.
Since racism against minoritys is so common in thus countrys history, its easy to report without fear of backlash since even the majority will sympathize with the minority.
But it appears as if thr media chooses to stay away from racism against the majority in fear of backlash.
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I think the majority of the media stayed away from the story because the "parade" was 40 people from a disorganized radical group. Local news covered it because ultimately it was a local issue about the toxic relationship between the Oakland police and the community. 40 yahoos with poorly written signs on poster board marching 7 blocks does not a national news story make.
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04-11-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintBrad
It gets aggrevating how the media makes bigger stories for one race over another. In the case of Travon, (sorry I know I spelled it incorrectly), I believe.its really not a race thing, that even if he was white, it would still be all over the media.
But heres a point. Over in oakland a while back there was a parade celebrating a black guy that was killed. They were celebrating him because he killed 3 white cops. T-shirts and all were made about it to support the killers family.
Now, why were the 3 cops after him? He had a warrant out for his arrest for raping and killimg a young black girl that was 8 or 10. Yet this entire neighborhood was celebrating killing people.
The media got wind of it, and hardly anyone reported it, wrote about, or published anything about it.
He was an animal for what he did to that girl, and so is anyone who took part in that parade.
Personally, I beleive the majority of the media stayed away because they feared any backlash of what could be considered or turn into a race war.
Since racism against minoritys is so common in thus countrys history, its easy to report without fear of backlash since even the majority will sympathize with the minority.
But it appears as if thr media chooses to stay away from racism against the majority in fear of backlash.
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All sources I pulled up on that case shows a group of about 100 at most.
So where did you get the idea that the entire population in that neighborhood was celebrating those deaths?
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04-11-2012, 05:00 PM
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The truth is there are people in this world who want to believe their "tribe" are victims because they have a victim mentality. They see everything in black and white and, I can almost promise, off the board use much more colorful language when discussing the situations. It's that tribal mentality that is at the root of xenophobia and that drive the "well what about poor us" responses to every incident. Its just human nature.
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04-11-2012, 05:03 PM
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Here's the real question Vchip....youve read a lot of threads and posts about black on white incidents. Had it not been for those threads....would you have ever known? Probably not... Doesn't that concern you?
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04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Saints318
Because black on white violent crimes are never major news stories and whites are tired of being depicted as the most prejudice race when in reality they are the most hated and unappreciated.
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Interesting. I've never felt hated or unappreciated.
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04-11-2012, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Saints318
Because black on white violent crimes are never major news stories and whites are tired of being depicted as the most prejudice race when in reality they are the most hated and unappreciated.
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What should the "white race" be appreciated for?
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04-11-2012, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs
Here's the real question Vchip....youve read a lot of threads and posts about black on white incidents. Had it not been for those threads....would you have ever known? Probably not... Doesn't that concern you?
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Here's an answer FatiusJeebs: in almost every single case of these "reaction" posts, I already knew of the allegedly "not covered" incident. The story about Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom? Saw it in 2007. The SC Soccer girl's attack? Saw it on Yahoo news, not related to Trayvon. The attack on the man in Pennsylvania? Saw it on another message board, not in response to Trayvon. The story about the 13-year old kid in Missouri who got burned by black kids? Read about it on SaintsReport before the Trayvon Marton story broke (but in response to Jena 6(!)). I'm sure there are others, and I'm sure one or two I might find out about only after the fact, but the vast majority are out there and covered -- they're not in some vacuum.
An interesting thing is: why don't more people (who end up outraged in the end) care about these crimes BEFORE they have to use them in response to alleged white-on-black racial issues? I never saw the 13-year old boy burning case mentioned on Facebook at all until weeks after it happened, and then in every case it was just as a "why isn't there more outrage over this and not Trayvon?" I dunno, you tell me why you didn't notice it until after you needed something to counter someone else's outrage -- it was covered. It was posted here 2 days before the Trayvon Martin case and got 13 replies. Maybe because it's not as sensational and there aren't any loose ends -- horrible horrible crime but no ongoing controversy. I mean ask yourself: why don't other baby disappearances or murders get nearly the amount of coverage of Caylee Anthony? Probably because it was a crazy story and that the outcome wasn't known (and according to the jury, still isn't).
People like to blame Sharpton and Jackson on these issues -- especially again in the Trayvon Martin case -- but the thing is they were LATE to the party this time. They were fame-whoring -- an event came about before they were involved and then they tried to jump on the coattails. They didn't start the fire, but they sure cozied up once it was roaring and started trying to get more logs thrown on it.
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Last edited by V Chip; 04-13-2012 at 08:56 AM.
Reason: Correcting spelling of Channon
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04-11-2012, 05:41 PM
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What should the "white race" be appreciated for?
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Bad dancing and country clubs.
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