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Old 01-11-2017, 06:01 AM   #76
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Sadly, these two go together now. It's hard to take Trump as deserving any respect when he treats serious matters so frivolously.

Trump knows no other way. His tactic has never been the use of use facts to refute allegations against him, his tactic is to whine, bully, bluster, and stamp his feet. It's what children do. It's what his supporters do.
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Not vote for Trump, which I consider to be some of my finest work.

I could make similar claims about you. Regardless of how much evidence is presented that Trump is ridiculously out of his depth and unqualified for the job he was given, you seem to be pleased that he won. Every day that passes, more news is brought forward about another country with interests opposite of our own has tampered with our constitutionally protected right to vote. Regardless of the information presented, you remain ambivalent.

As a member of the military, isn't that something that you're charged with protecting? You should be more outraged than anyone.

No one here is trying to discredit his win. It happened, but that doesn't mean we bury our heads in the sand on something like this. This is seriously ****ed up if true and every day more evidence comes to light, it seems to be just that.
this is hilarious what evidence do you show that proove that there was any tampering with your right to vote? did you vote? And did it count? okay then. And second of all as a military member my job is to uphold the Constitution of the United States and against all enemies foreign and domestic yes that is true butt as stated above there is no proof that this has truly happened you guys are just speculating off of anything and everything that comes across the internet and you want to make judgment before all the facts are in. as I said before get over it he won't stop digging up anything and everything hoping that something will happen when he will not take office it's happening 9 days from now
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Trump knows no other way. His tactic has never been the use of use facts to refute allegations against him, his tactic is to whine, bully, bluster, and stamp his feet. It's what children do. It's what his supporters do.
2 + 2 = 5

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George Orwell had used this concept before publishing Nineteen Eighty-Four. During his career at the BBC, he became familiar with the methods of Nazi propaganda. In his essay "Looking Back on the Spanish War",[16] published in 1943 (six years before the publication of Nineteen Eighty-Four), Orwell wrote:
Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as "the truth" exists. ... The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, "It never happened" – well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five – well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs.[16]
In the view of most of Orwell's biographers, the main source for this was Assignment in Utopia by Eugene Lyons, an account of his time in the Soviet Union. This contains a chapter "Two Plus Two Equals Five", that referred to Guminer's slogan.
However, Orwell spoke of the Nazis, so he may have been making reference to the Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring, who once, in a debatably hyperbolic display of loyalty to Adolf Hitler, declared, "If the Führer wants it, two and two makes five!"[17]
In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell writes:
In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?[18]
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When the world begins to realize that the MSM fell for a Trump pee-pee fanfic that was written sometime back this past October on one of the 'chans, BTFO won't even begin to describe the media's status.
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If the mainstream media fell for it, so did former Republican presidential candidate John McCain who disclosed the initial report so that it could be investigated given the potentially damaging national security implications.

If this whole episode really originated as Internet fan fiction, why aren't US intelligence agencies investigating whether Hilary Clinton is a lizard or whether folding the $1 note confirms the existence of the Illuminati? I mean, I stand by my original comments that the golden shower stuff sounds ridiculous, petulant and likely implausible - but as for the broader premise of the Russians having compromising information on Trump - well, there appears to be enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that warrants further examination.
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Stop it already, your grasping straws because your upset that Trump won the election. Nothing will come of this, just like the 50 other accusations prior to this one. You can take that to the bank. I'm so tired of the politically correct left and their poor sport attitudes. You all said Trump would be crying about how the rigged election did him in but you never dreamed it would be the politically correct left doing all the whining did you?
Nothing comes of it because people like you don't care about the country, just being able to puff up your chest, display your stupidity and cheer like sophomore special ed kids about Fearless Leader. If you all had an ounce of self respect or decency this stuff would matter, but you all flushed that down Putins toilet when you sold your soul to every repugnant interest on the planet to stick it to OMGZ Liberales!

You all are pathetic, and you're laughing on the road to Hell. So congratulations on your victory, I hope you can find your soul when you get there.

Pathetic.

Edit: And for the record I don't believe the golden shower report. I think it's A Putin plant story to further discredit the media. He's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers right now, and he's got a pet boot licker in the White House now, which is going to help.
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Stop it already, your grasping straws because your upset that Trump won the election. Nothing will come of this, just like the 50 other accusations prior to this one. You can take that to the bank. I'm so tired of the politically correct left and their poor sport attitudes. You all said Trump would be crying about how the rigged election did him in but you never dreamed it would be the politically correct left doing all the whining did you?
No, we never once said that. Trump himself said he would claim the election was rigged if he lost.
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If I were an ardent Trump supporter I'd probably mostly be lurking right now hoping there was no truth to this. If true, Russia basically manipulated the American presidential election and got Putin's operative elected. Let that sink in. That should trump (yes, bad pun) the pride of our guy winning or sticking it to the liberals. John McCain thought this was worthy of investigation, ask him what he's done for his country. I find this and the attitudes of some Trump supporters disgusting and if this story is found to be true, Trump should be shot as a traitor.
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Stop it already, your grasping straws because your upset that Trump won the election. Nothing will come of this, just like the 50 other accusations prior to this one. You can take that to the bank. I'm so tired of the politically correct left and their poor sport attitudes. You all said Trump would be crying about how the rigged election did him in but you never dreamed it would be the politically correct left doing all the whining did you?
Most of the accusations against Trump are true. It happens that this one has been one of them, and the evidence is now much stronger. Ignoring it reveals that you're a traitor. Skepticism is acceptable, but discounting such an extreme act is treasonous. If mostly true, this is no like the non-existent lies told about Hillary which at most were minor crimes done by most politicians. This would be a high crime for which he should be locked up.
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Ok, there are five lights. Looks like it was all a misunderstanding and Russia has cleared things up for us.


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Also the irony of Trump asking the question.


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When the world begins to realize that the MSM fell for a Trump pee-pee fanfic that was written sometime back this past October on one of the 'chans, BTFO won't even begin to describe the media's status.
It's very telling that conservatives are putting this on Liberals. This report was given to the F.B.I. from John McCain. I don't have any idea who leaked the material, but blaming "MSM" is fantasy level disengagement from the facts.
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Ok, there are five lights. Looks like it was all a misunderstanding and Russia has cleared things up for us.


Russia said it's ok? Well, no ****. Guess we don't have a problem.

Now, from what I read last night (not sure if anything has changed), it's allegations. There is a report that buzzfeed posts, but most media admonished them for not really verifying it, so they won't touch it, other than to say it's out there.

This is definite smoke, but not sure we can call it a fire yet.

If true, he really might get impeached his first year. This is insane.
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Yeah, I don't think the "documents" are likely to be verified or real.

On the other hand I don't think the intel agencies knowing they are 9 days away from reporting to Trump would just write down some random hunch without a lot behind it, and zero people, Trump included, have denied the agencies made such a report. He's only arguing about the validity of the report, not whether it was delivered. They'll pay for it, especially since someone else fairly predictably leaked it. I just can't see a motive for the CIA and others to try to get Trump even more worked up to fire all of them. I see nothing at all for them to gain here. So strong reason to believe that the Trump campaign was actively coordinating with a foreign power is very very concerning.
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