Do you ever feel the NFL is rigged?? - Page 3

JBryan314 · 01-19-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Surviving Saint

Parity is such BS in the NFL. Really! The Browns? They held PITT to 13 points. Big Ben is a point shaving son of a gun. They should have torched the Browns.

So, what you're saying is that there is no way a normally bad team can't come up with a great game plan against an opponent they see twice a year? Sometimes bad teams pull a decent game out. See the Rams beating the Saints.

They difference between the people who think there is rigging and the ones who don't, is that the ones who think it's rigged don't have any actual evidence or proof of anything. Just their opinions. Nothing more. "That couldn't happen unless the game is rigged" kind of stuff. Um, yes, actually it COULD happen. It does sometimes. If you believe the game is rigged at all, then our SB was rigged because that's as close as you can get to a Hollywood type, feel-good story. If that was rigged, then I see ZERO reason to watch the NFL or be a fan of ANY team at all.

wizard1183 · 01-20-2012, 01:09 AM

As some have stated theres plenty evidence to see it being rigged. Now whats your perception of being rigged? Is it a team to win? Or is it for gambling purposes? Gambling purposes are purely evident that theres play in it. Last yr, Redskins were given a chance to win the game and cover against TB. They were gien 5 downs. You can youtube it!. The BALL was first down on the 12 yrd line! Watch where they put the marker, on the 10 yrd line if Im not mistaken. No one caught it???

Lets go this yr... here we have Drew Brees torching opponents to death! SECONDLY! We see Rogers smoking opponents and last we see Brady torching them. BUt gues what? Drew loses at 49ers, Rogers loses at HOME! and Brady? Bradys going to lose SUNDAY!!! Heres some stats. No back to back wild cards have EVER won the SB, well... Giants arent winnign this yr then since GB was #6 seed last yr. Cash cows (a team who has covered the spread no less than 10x during a season) have NEVER won a SB! Well.... 49ers are out. That leaves Brady vs Baltimore to win the SB.

Now.... you see about 4- 5 teams this yr scoring and throwing pts on the board like defenses dont matter in the NFL this yr. Saints, GB, Detroit, Carolina, and Pats. There may be 1 or 2 more. You saw the amountof yrds thrown this yr. Everyone speculating that a high profile QB cant be stopped. Brees was stopped to hardly anything, Rogers was stopped, now watch Brady get stopped and the NFL will tell its viewers that even though the league rules for Defense has gotten to he point that they cant touch anyone without a flag beign thrown that they can still win championchips. So youre going to see 3 teams that SHOULD have won their games being so prolific on offense its an absolutel miracle they cold lose LOSE! Baltimore wins the SB with a POS QB like Flacco. And there you have it folks! Vegas makes their money back on all the cash cows that ate them up. Watch it go that way and youll see that there is some play in the NFL. I mean how many ppl in the U.S. REALLY beleive Baltimore can win the SB? How many do you actually think? I promise you its NOT many! IF...IF Baltimore wins this AFCCG, they WILL win the SB! I have money riding on thei ***. Many think Id be a ****** to do so but somethigns gotta give and I think vegas and the NFL will have their hands in it to make the general public (who bets) give up their seasonal winnings on teams that on PAPER should have won.

JBryan314 · 01-20-2012, 02:15 AM

So, in other words, because something happens, it must be rigged? Because there is zero chance for GB to lose at home? No chance for the Saints to lose? Unless it's rigged? Games happening in a certain way is not evidence or proof. Evidence is finding a paper trail detailing money changing hands for results. Saying that a game happening a certain way is not evidence of rigging. You made all sorts of predictions, saying that it's evidence of rigging if they happen. What if they don't happen the way you say? The Saints lost to a good defense in a close game on the road. That's evidence of rigging? GB lost to the Giants at home. So? The Giants don't suck. Everyone knows in football anyone can win on any given Sunday. But when a team wins, it's not evidence of rigging. I'm talking about actual evidence. Paper trails. Leaked stories from players who have more money to be made from leaking the story than they have being paid to miss blocks or tackles.

Bottom line. There is no evidence or proof. Games being won by a team you didn't think should have won isn't proof or evidence of anything.

wnelson · 01-20-2012, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EricC.

While watching the GB/NYG game Sunday evening, i thought about it a few times. And im usually one that says it's crazy to think that NFL games are rigged. But i found myself thinking about it during that game. Game changing, headscratcher calls.

expect similar officiating in Baltimore/New England

nfl wants Giants/Patriots east coast rematch.... they gave the South and the Midwest their crumbs the last 2 seasons

Surviving Saint · 01-20-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wnelson

expect similar officiating in Baltimore/New England

nfl wants Giants/Patriots east coast rematch.... they gave the South and the Midwest their crumbs the last 2 seasons

There hasnt been a SB rematch since the 93/94 Dallas vs Bills. I dont think we see a rematch of NE vs NYG. IF BAL vs SF happens,Vegas makes a fortune.

There are calls and non calls that affect some games every year and help determine the winner. Saying an official cant determine an outcome is wrong. They do it every year. GB/CHI of this year where the punt return for a TD was called back due to a stupid penalty was obvious. It didn't affect the winner but it could have. That call was made purely on money. They didnt throw the flag until the guy was nearly in the end zone. Funny how they wait to see the play unfold before putting the flag on the field. Holding can be called every single play yet GB had 10 games where not a single holding call was made on them. That's just good discipline though.

deltadawg · 01-20-2012, 06:25 AM

I saw twice in the gb/giants game that bad calls were made and still not turned over in replay that made me wonder. It's bad when the commentators even say something. I scratched my head...

JBryan314 · 01-20-2012, 06:26 AM

None of the "NFL is rigged" crowd wants to answer the question. If you truly believe the NFL is rigged to any degree, then why would you waste your time watching it or rooting for a team?

Surviving Saint · 01-20-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JBryan314

None of the "NFL is rigged" crowd wants to answer the question. If you truly believe the NFL is rigged to any degree, then why would you waste your time watching it or rooting for a team?

Why do people still watch American Idol knowing the outcome is rigged? People still watch WWE knowing its staged. It's entertainment. That is all anything on TV is for.

I dont think anyone has said the NFL is rigged. A few games here and there is not the league. I would still watch if the NFL was found to be scripted like the WWE. I just wouldnt have any allegiance to the Saints anymore.

wizard1183 · 01-20-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JBryan314

So, in other words, because something happens, it must be rigged? Because there is zero chance for GB to lose at home? No chance for the Saints to lose? Unless it's rigged? Games happening in a certain way is not evidence or proof. Evidence is finding a paper trail detailing money changing hands for results. Saying that a game happening a certain way is not evidence of rigging. You made all sorts of predictions, saying that it's evidence of rigging if they happen. What if they don't happen the way you say? The Saints lost to a good defense in a close game on the road. That's evidence of rigging? GB lost to the Giants at home. So? The Giants don't suck. Everyone knows in football anyone can win on any given Sunday. But when a team wins, it's not evidence of rigging. I'm talking about actual evidence. Paper trails. Leaked stories from players who have more money to be made from leaking the story than they have being paid to miss blocks or tackles.

Bottom line. There is no evidence or proof. Games being won by a team you didn't think should have won isn't proof or evidence of anything.

You want a paper trail? Go to the nearest bookie because that's the only paper being transferred. Quarterbacks gamble on the game as do many others. This rigging has nothing to do with a team winning. It has everything to do with gambling. Follow gambling threads. Look and see how well Vegas does a job so as not one different way can you win or become rich over them. This is not a card game, a roulette wheel, or craps table with fixed stats. This is human beings controlling it. Don't sit here and say its not when you look at a parlay card and thing you can pick 3 winners cause the odds are stacked against you very high.

Sarcastic · 01-20-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wnelson

expect similar officiating in Baltimore/New England

nfl wants Giants/Patriots east coast rematch....

When did you start watching football?

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Sarcastic · 01-20-2012, 08:37 AM

The 5th down thing is the stupidest damn conspiracy theory I've ever heard.

They gave them a bad first down, not an extra down. How could they know the Redskins would need an "extra down" (and only one) to get the touchdown? They spotted the first down marker wrong, gave them a 9-yard first down, and Fox's morons didn't look at the markers to know it was awarded.

It was a mistake, but it wasn't "five downs".

But nobody's going to believe me if you're into the conspiracies, because you'll believe what you want. That the refs knew ahead of time exactly how many downs the Skins would need, exactly how many yards they would gain on first down, and planned accordingly.

What's weird is that these extremely gifted football psychics didn't know that the Skins would miss the extra point, and just tell the bookies what the point spread would be. Wouldn't that have been a lot easier?

Alan · 01-20-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JBryan314

So, in other words, because something happens, it must be rigged? Because there is zero chance for GB to lose at home? No chance for the Saints to lose? Unless it's rigged? Games happening in a certain way is not evidence or proof. Evidence is finding a paper trail detailing money changing hands for results. Saying that a game happening a certain way is not evidence of rigging. You made all sorts of predictions, saying that it's evidence of rigging if they happen. What if they don't happen the way you say? The Saints lost to a good defense in a close game on the road. That's evidence of rigging? GB lost to the Giants at home. So? The Giants don't suck. Everyone knows in football anyone can win on any given Sunday. But when a team wins, it's not evidence of rigging. I'm talking about actual evidence. Paper trails. Leaked stories from players who have more money to be made from leaking the story than they have being paid to miss blocks or tackles.

Bottom line. There is no evidence or proof. Games being won by a team you didn't think should have won isn't proof or evidence of anything.

Yep no proof that Jerry Rice fumbled at the 3 yard line and it went out of the back of the end zone. No replay that CLEARLY showed it was a fumble. Nope nothing to see here, move along.

That was a playoff game. I was there.

You sir are extremely naive.

blackngold4877 · 01-20-2012, 09:09 AM

Ok so one person is saying the NFL wants NE vs NYG, another is saying they want SF vs Bal, and another is saying Bal is going to win it all regardless... so basically no matter what happens someones dumb theory will coincidentally be right.

Alan · 01-20-2012, 09:11 AM

Influence of a game only takes one or two calls, one or two missed tackles.
Again, its not everyone but you can't seriously look me in the eye and say nobody in the 9 billion dollar plus cash cow of the NFL is not on the take.

sleepingbunch · 01-20-2012, 09:14 AM

I could completely believe that occasional referees would alter the game in regards to gambling. It happened in the NBA, and with the growing power that refs have over outcomes (with the multitude of extra rules in place), it could happen in the NFL (and might have already happened).

I don't believe, for one second, in a larger conspiracy to fix games so the NFL gets the results that they want.