Why N.O. re. Goodell-gate? crazy theory

[guidomerkinsrules]

ok so crazy theory from nowhere but my butt...

could the reason NO is the target of these accusations is that the Saints are the highest profile team with the weakest press corps around?
if you think why haven't jets/giants been sanctioned even though they have public admissions of the same stuff the saints are accused of, could it be that NY press would have come down full force on NFL and raised a stink from jump?
same with DC?

[Broadmoor74]

No.

Regardless of media market size, the Saints have been one of the most popular teams over the past few seasons. His agenda likely wouldn't have anything to do with market size or media strength.

Goodell likely just found an organization that didn't follow his orders, and he's making them/us pay for it, with all the former player lawsuits and all.

[guidomerkinsrules]

Originally Posted by Broadmoor74

No.

Regardless of media market size, the Saints have been one of the most popular teams over the past few seasons. His agenda likely wouldn't have anything to do with market size or media strength.

Goodell likely just found an organization that didn't follow his orders, and he's making them/us pay for it, with all the former player lawsuits and all.

and you really think we were the only one?








plus we didn't do anything we're accused of

[DiNovi]

No.

We ran a pay for performance scheme, and got busted.

Goodell upped the ante with the injury accusations and now he and the NFL have to figure out a way to not go down for it.

[mt15]

Guido, makes about as much sense as anything in this whole mess. Wouldn't be the first time someone from the East Coast underestimated a smaller market.

I do think it's personal between Payton and Goodell. What happened to make it personal I have no idea, but I remember seeing a post from somebody who did some work on a Saints player's house right after the Payton suspension came out, and the player told him there was a personal grudge against Payton on Goodell's part.

[Symbiote]

It's hard to say. The Saints are getting treated like the Raiders did years ago, and even to this day you know the Raiders still get screwed.

[nealkm]

I think he was looking to come out strong in light of the concussion lawsuits and thought we were an easy target.

If it turns out he was wrong (fingers crossed) I fully expect him to lose his job and get his pants sued off.

[Bayou]

Let's face it - 40 years of perhaps the biggest doormat in sports and now at the top. They don't like it that it's not happening in NY, Dallas, or California. Bres is the best out there - he still doesn't get his due. The team absolutely shattered Offensive records last year - how much press does that get? This is a lousy attempt to sweep "irrelevance" (Saints) under the rug, imo.

[St. Pike]

Originally Posted by Bayou

Let's face it - 40 years of perhaps the biggest doormat in sports and now at the top. They don't like it that it's not happening in NY, Dallas, or California. Bres is the best out there - he still doesn't get his due. The team absolutely shattered Offensive records last year - how much press does that get? This is a lousy attempt to sweep "irrelevance" (Saints) under the rug, imo.

I always thought it was weird that back during our SB run, Brees was the new kid on the block as the media raved about Manning, but last year, despite Rodger being "more or less new" it was Brees that was compared to Rodgers. I guess id didn't help that Rodgers won the SB the previous year, but it didn't make the Brees having to "measure- up" to Rodgers seem any less surreal.


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[parlorcitysaint]

The reason is because Drew was the face of the negotiations during the CBA. In addition, There was loud whining in NY when Vilma renewed his contract just after the start of free agency.

Look at the last couple of years realistically. It wasn't the NFL's plan that we go to (or win) SB XLIV. That was to be Favre's last hurrah. Instead, we played by the rules and eliminated the viqueens. Brett's last hurrah ended with yet another pick to cap off the year. What was the first thing to happen that off season? Yup. Change the overtime rules for the playoffs. Cheesey. But we should have anticipated it.

[Broadmoor74]

Originally Posted by guidomerkinsrules

and you really think we were the only one?

The only one who what? It's been noted that the Packers were confronted by Goodell a few years back as well. Supposedly, the Packers obided. The Saints supposedly didn't. My point is just that I don't think media market has anything to do with it.

[Brad01]

Originally Posted by DiNovi

No.

We ran a pay for performance scheme, and got busted.

Goodell upped the ante with the injury accusations and now he and the NFL have to figure out a way to not go down for it.

Teams got caught doing this in the past and no one even was fined, so this can't be the case.


I think it's a number of factors... and I think the number one factor is the owner. Goodell works for the owners. Tom Benson is one of the owners least likely to investigate the NFL's claims or speak out against their mishandling of their investigation.

There is absolutely zero chance Rooney, Kraft, Mara, Jerry Jones, or a handful of others wouldn't have spoken out at this point. Benson should be questioning the investigation and the lack of evidence, even if it's privately.

I think another factor is that a lot of these former players are submitting their lawsuits in Atlanta. Atlanta clearly hates New Orleans. They're tainting the jury pool by throwing out these accusations against the Saints so that those jurors are more likely to NOT vote in favor of the former players.

Now I certainly don't think the investigation started with Goodell himself... clearly a former employee said something. From there, with the heat the NFL is about to get from the lawsuits, they just created a monster. The NFL is dirty. Real dirty. It really ****** me off to rehash all of the allegations and the NFL's handling of this.

I mean seriously... even if EVERYTHING the NFL is saying would be true... what they did is still very dirty. The CBA disallows punishment for players before August 2011. Fujita did not play for the Saints in 2010 or 2011, so that should clear him from the "continuation of a bounty program". He wasn't a team captain for the Saints so they couldn't punish him for being a defensive leader either. He's also very outspoken against the NFL in terms of player safety as well as being an executive committee member of the NFLPA. And of course he receives a 3 game suspension.

I swear I hate the NFL so much right now. If I was a casual fan, I would be done with the league. I know I'm done with everything NFL related unless it specifically involves the Saints though. I get angry just hearing Goodell's voice on the radio. This guy is about as dirty as they come. He needs to be fired. Right now. But there's no way anything happens until at after the lawsuits at a minimum.

[MsMSSaintsFan]

I still think part of it comes from G-dell wanting New York to be the first SB city with a home town win, not NOLA.

[GasBag]

Originally Posted by guidomerkinsrules

ok so crazy theory from nowhere but my butt...

could the reason NO is the target of these accusations is that the Saints are the highest profile team with the weakest press corps around?
if you think why haven't jets/giants been sanctioned even though they have public admissions of the same stuff the saints are accused of, could it be that NY press would have come down full force on NFL and raised a stink from jump?
same with DC?

I wholeheartedly agree with the theory. Saints aren't in the big markets of the uber wealthy North Easy. Saints are Big Easy. Less money for the league, big money for the home town area. Big Money doesn't get much of that natural pie. Saints are, perhaps "were" Americas most popular team. What better way, than for big money to squash and villify small money, than accuse them of the very thing they do.

I think this is deep and raveled behind corporate doors -- much less to do with fact and much less to do with reality.

I would like nothing more than to see this team rise up, and us Saints fans take home every victory and turn our backs on the league and not let them share in it at all.

I'm saying like, players refuse press after a win on the road, but instead, greet and meet every saints fan wearing gear on those road trips. Every win on the dome -- no press conference at all, but spend time with the fans.

Afterall, it's us who buy all the garb, scream loud, defend them in debate, and spend money to see them whoop some ***. Why should we accomodate, why should the team accomodate all the haters and nay sayers? Skrew em. They ain't buying our symbol and they aren't helping us to vindicate our team from all the lies. Stay tight, my brothers. Those that hate us always will. Skrew em.

[scott88]

Since the NFL is getting sued by thousands of former players about their health then the NFL decided they needed a scapegoat to put in front of the courts saying they are trying to protect their players health