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12-09-2008, 02:05 PM
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Guest
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Location: Anniston, AL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st. andrew
Their clothes, styles, and statements made them trend-setters, while their growing social awareness saw their influence extend into the social and cultural revolutions of the 1960s.
The Beatles' innovative music and cultural impact helped define the 1960s, and their influence on pop culture is still evident today.
the things they did with the music were huge. Prior to them nobody was using guitar feedback in albums?
Prior to them who was using classical musicians on popular albums?
Prior to them who was using artificial double tracking?
Close miking of acoustic instruments was never done prior to them nowadays it is common practice.
Nobody sampled prior to them, now everyone does it.
I could go on, but if people say the beatles were not influential... well don't expect your musical expertise to sit well with me. It's as shallow as Panteras depth.
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The Beatles originated nothing. They simply used what others had already accomplished and laid claim to it.
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12-09-2008, 02:05 PM
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Always Start Simple
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Location: Chesapeake, VA
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I'll give John Lennon this; the longer he is dead, the worse Paul McCartney's music gets.
Otherwise, "Imagine" is my least favorite song of all time.
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12-09-2008, 02:06 PM
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Always Start Simple
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Originally Posted by BullDawg
The Beatles originated nothing. They simply used what others had already accomplished and laid claim to it.
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Nice to see you around.....
But they did predate the "Oneders" with the misspelled name thing. I'm just saying.....
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12-09-2008, 02:10 PM
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Thicketeer - Bottomite
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by crosswatt
Nice to see you around..... 
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. I was thinking the same thing. Good to see ya, BD
Same to geauxboy. Welcome back.
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12-09-2008, 02:18 PM
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Burrrrrrrsitis!
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by thewyrm
The Beatles are over rated?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. The one good thing about people who tell me they don't like the Beatles? I know I can disregard their opinion on just about any other subject because they have proven themselves ridiculous in my eyes.
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12-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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Leading the way
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IMO, they have been influential. Look at a lot of the pop rock crap out today. Most of them use Beatles type hooks and dress like them too. It's just rehashing an old look and sound.
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12-09-2008, 02:20 PM
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Leading the way
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Originally Posted by Sabine
. I was thinking the same thing. Good to see ya, BD
Same to geauxboy. Welcome back.
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Thx Hon.
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12-09-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by keepoursaints
Or as bad as your reading skills? Where have I said they aren't/weren't influential? That still doesn't mean I have to like them and worship them or give a crap about Lennon's death anniversary....
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Talking about reading skills, when did I say I was talking to you?
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12-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by antipop
i certainly didn't say they were not influential
that doesn't make them any less overrated
it happens all the time....nirvana was influential as well as overrated...
sacred??? the beatles??? come on guy
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define overrated and we might agree.
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12-09-2008, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BullDawg
The Beatles originated nothing. They simply used what others had already accomplished and laid claim to it.
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Like I posted. All those things they had done, they were the first. Now it is common place. If somebody was doing those things prior by all means, go and break it out. In terms of sound, and recording they were the 1st's in so many areas.
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12-09-2008, 02:24 PM
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Polar Bear Wrestler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfan
People get confused with the Beatles and why they think they are great.
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There is no confusion if you have ears.
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12-09-2008, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thewyrm
There is no confusion if you have ears.
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AMEN
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12-09-2008, 02:40 PM
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chooper gunner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st. andrew
define overrated and we might agree.
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do i really need to??? i think you know what it means
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JGunn
Quick typing words to me, I ignore them 99% of the time, I have no use for you, your words mean nothing to me Del Toro. 
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12-09-2008, 02:47 PM
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Idle
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Shreveport, Tx.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Joe Strummer / Mick Jones
London calling to the faraway towns
Now that war is declared-and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, all you boys and girls
London calling, now dont look at us
All that phoney beatlemania has bitten the dust
London calling, see we aint got no swing
cept for the ring of that truncheon thing
Chorus
The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in
Engines stop running and the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
London is drowning-and I live by the river
London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, an go it alone
London calling upon the zombies of death
Quit holding out-and draw another breath
London calling-and I dont wanna shout
But when we were talking-i saw you nodding out
London calling, see we aint got no highs
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes
Chorus
Now get this
London calling, yeah, I was there, too
An you know what they said? well, some of it was true!
London calling at the top of the dial
After all this, wont you give me a smile?
I never felt so much a like
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12-09-2008, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by st. andrew
Like I posted. All those things they had done, they were the first. Now it is common place. If somebody was doing those things prior by all means, go and break it out. In terms of sound, and recording they were the 1st's in so many areas.
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Don't know about that, their stuff in the early 60s may have been an evolution from the sound of the late 50s, but I don't see as sort of radical shift from the music being put out by Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, etc.
In '67 they hitched their wagon to the psychedelic rock bandwagon, but they were beat their by Hendrix, the Doors, and even the Beach Boys (I think even McCartney said that Sergeant Pepper would not have been possible without Pet Sounds)
They may have been prolific and fairly diverse in terms of their sound, but they were not revolutionary
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