28 years later, his death is still hard to imagine

[BullDawg]

Originally Posted by st. andrew

Like I posted. All those things they had done, they were the first. Now it is common place. If somebody was doing those things prior by all means, go and break it out. In terms of sound, and recording they were the 1st's in so many areas.

Robert Ashley - first to use deliberate feedback in a recording.
(Though not directly referenced) Ike Turner - first to use deliberate distortion
The use of classical musicians (or at the very least classically trained musicians) on popular albums was commonplace with Big Band/Jazz music of the '20s - early '50s.

[BullDawg]

Originally Posted by DCSaints_Fan

Don't know about that, their stuff in the early 60s may have been an evolution from the sound of the late 50s, but I don't see as sort of radical shift from the music being put out by Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, etc.

In '67 they hitched their wagon to the psychedelic rock bandwagon, but they were beat their by Hendrix, the Doors, and even the Beach Boys (I think even McCartney said that Sergeant Pepper would not have been possible without Pet Sounds)

They may have been prolific and fairly diverse in terms of their sound, but they were not revolutionary

The Doors, Hendrix, et. al. were also pre-dated by the 13th Floor Elevators.

[da nite tripper]

Yall are cracking me up. And some of yall really need to check your musical history. That is all.

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by antipop

do i really need to??? i think you know what it means

yes, please spell it out, I am not sure where you are going with it.

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by Thorin

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Actually now those are other innovators. I could love me some train in vain right now.

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by DCSaints_Fan

Don't know about that, their stuff in the early 60s may have been an evolution from the sound of the late 50s, but I don't see as sort of radical shift from the music being put out by Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, etc.

In '67 they hitched their wagon to the psychedelic rock bandwagon, but they were beat their by Hendrix, the Doors, and even the Beach Boys (I think even McCartney said that Sergeant Pepper would not have been possible without Pet Sounds)

They may have been prolific and fairly diverse in terms of their sound, but they were not revolutionary

I thought the psychedelic sound was brought on by the use of Indian instruments such a the sitar? And the Beatles were the first to use a sitar in a rock album.

All those things I posted, they were the first to use. I can back them up with links. I think a lot of what your saying is legit, but they were pre-all those guys. Their music was innovative.

[st. andrew]

I think a lot of people here are stuck up still on JL saying the Beatles are bigger than Jesus. Didn't even mean it the way it was taken but that right there ticked a lot of people down south off.

[Brandon13]

Originally Posted by st. andrew

I think a lot of people here are stuck up still on JL saying the Beatles are bigger than Jesus. Didn't even mean it the way it was taken but that right there ticked a lot of people down south off.

Well, he did mean it that way. People just took "bigger than Jesus" and made it into "better than Jesus" to fit their own agendas.

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by Brandon13

Well, he did mean it that way. People just took "bigger than Jesus" and made it into "better than Jesus" to fit their own agendas.

Agree.

[geauxboy]

The Vatican has now changed their stance on that comment. They said that JL and the band were young and reached pop stardom so fast at such a young age that he didn't know what he was saying.

[keepoursaints]

Originally Posted by keepoursaints

They were influential, but I still don't care for their music.

Is that ok with you?

Originally Posted by st. andrew

Their clothes, styles, and statements made them trend-setters, while their growing social awareness saw their influence extend into the social and cultural revolutions of the 1960s.

The Beatles' innovative music and cultural impact helped define the 1960s, and their influence on pop culture is still evident today.

the things they did with the music were huge. Prior to them nobody was using guitar feedback in albums?
Prior to them who was using classical musicians on popular albums?
Prior to them who was using artificial double tracking?
Close miking of acoustic instruments was never done prior to them nowadays it is common practice.
Nobody sampled prior to them, now everyone does it.

I could go on, but if people say the beatles were not influential... well don't expect your musical expertise to sit well with me. It's as shallow as Panteras depth.

Originally Posted by st. andrew

Talking about reading skills, when did I say I was talking to you?

Those first 2 posts were back to back and I also posted the only picture of Dimebag in this thread. Is it a stretch to think you're possibly talking to me?

[antipop]

Originally Posted by st. andrew

yes, please spell it out, I am not sure where you are going with it.

the dictionary defines overrated as "the beatles, U2, and pearl jam"

true story

[keepoursaints]

Originally Posted by antipop

the dictionary defines overrated as "the beatles, U2, and pearl jam"

true story

well played

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by antipop

the dictionary defines overrated as "the beatles, U2, and pearl jam"

true story

I would like to see that. In all honesty...coming from a fan of slipknot I am not surprised.

[st. andrew]

Originally Posted by keepoursaints

Those first 2 posts were back to back and I also posted the only picture of Dimebag in this thread. Is it a stretch to think you're possibly talking to me?

Do jumping jacks much, you sure are stretching things a bit. Stretching, generalizing, etc.