They play football outside the SEC

[VVextreme]

Originally Posted by Rob Beaux

how many are your aliases?

I never said I wanted you gone. you posting seriously is quality. you posting to get a reaction...is below VV level. Just stop the trolling by baiting the morans that do not know squat about football.

This coming from the guy who relentlessly backed Laval and even was crying over him while coach M was on his way to win the national championship? Give me a break.

You clearly do not have the proper aptitude to determine quality.

[Domination]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

"tha bone", thanks.

Aren't you the Cowboys fan?

did the sig give it away?

[St.Ryan]

Originally Posted by LSSpam

SEC is flat out terrible this year.


Still better then the ACC, Big East, and Big Ten, but what's that's worth? By SEC standards, this is a horrible year.

I'm pretty sure every other conference would be ecstatic to have 2 of the top 3 as well as 3 of the top 9.

This sentiment proves why the SEC is head and shoulders above other conferences. Even when we admit we suck...we still top the polls.

[ChizzleIV]

I wish this SEC love would have started before 2004!! Why Oh WHY?!?!? I'm so sad now...

[st dude]

I have never seen anyone go back and forth between good football takes and weak trollling as you LC. Yes there are a good number of SEC fans that who are boorish in their SEC better than anyone else shtick.

But its no less boorish than your constant troll shots at the SEC. It really detracts from your power poll and other good takes.

And yes, its trolling. The college board has been kind of fun with a bit more quality stuff going on. Inciting cheap smack talk just turns it into ninety percent of all the other college boards where rival posters trade lame smack.

And for a down year, three teams in the top ten in Novemeber all with a legitimate shot at the title game is not too bad.

[voodoo_blues]

Originally Posted by Rob Beaux

I remember the days when LC was gone. The discussion was a bit more mature. LC your better than this bro. You can get your point across with out being such a troll. Let the product on the field talk, unless thats is what your afraid of.

how can you be a troll on a "college" board. If it were strictly for SEC fans then you might have a case on LC. But the original post has nothing in it that would even make it trolling anyway, he quoted an article.

[SaintWilson]

Rare breed, a troll with extra long horns.


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[MLU]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

They play football outside the SEC...

They also play soccer outside of Europe, but no one gives a **** about that either...

[VVextreme]

Originally Posted by MLU

They also play soccer outside of Europe, but no one gives a **** about that either...

Must admit, MLU is one of the best I've seen at the one-liner smack talk...

Well done!

[stevedrum]

Personally I think when Bama is in the top 3 it's a great year.

[mikaloyd]

[primadox]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

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They play football outside of Austin, Texas, too...what's the point?

The SEC has produced the national champion the last three years. An SEC team has been in the championship game 5 out of the 11 years the BCS system has been around, and has WON ALL FIVE. Can't really argue with that. If another conference whines that the SEC gets too much respect, then send a team that can beat us. Otherwise, get over it.

BCS National Championship Results
Season Date Winner Score Loser Score Site
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship

SEC: represented in the BCSCG 5 times; won all 5.
Big 12: represented in the BCSCG 6 times; won 2.
PAC 10: represented in the BCSCG 2 times; won 1.
Big 10 (aka "little 11" ): represented in the BCSCG 3 times; won 1.
ACC/Big East: represented in the BCSCG 6 times; won 2.

[jott]

Originally Posted by primadox

They play football outside of Austin, Texas, too...what's the point?

The SEC has produced the national champion the last three years. An SEC team has been in the championship game 5 out of the 11 years the BCS system has been around, and has WON ALL FIVE. Can't really argue with that. If another conference whines that the SEC gets too much respect, then send a team that can beat us. Otherwise, get over it.

BCS National Championship Results
Season Date Winner Score Loser Score Site
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship

SEC: represented in the BCSCG 5 times; won all 5.
Big 12: represented in the BCSCG 6 times; won 2.
PAC 10: represented in the BCSCG 2 times; won 1.
Big 10 (aka "little 11" ): represented in the BCSCG 3 times; won 1.
ACC/Big East: represented in the BCSCG 6 times; won 2.

A lot of you completely missed LC's point.

All he really said is that there are some good teams outside of the SEC. The apparent consensus on this board is that aren't any good teams outside the SEC because every thread about a non-SEC team is loaded with posts that "they're over-rated", "they wouldn't win a game in the SEC", "blah blah blah".

In fact, your statistics proved LC right since 7 of the BCSCG's have been won by non-SEC teams.

[Taceo]

Originally Posted by jott

A lot of you completely missed LC's point.

All he really said is that there are some good teams outside of the SEC. The apparent consensus on this board is that aren't any good teams outside the SEC because every thread about a non-SEC team is loaded with posts that "they're over-rated", "they wouldn't win a game in the SEC", "blah blah blah".

In fact, your statistics proved LC right since 7 of the BCSCG's have been won by non-SEC teams.

Actually, I think you missed the point. LC's trolling is old hat and it isn't fooling anybody.

[primadox]

Originally Posted by jott

A lot of you completely missed LC's point.

All he really said is that there are some good teams outside of the SEC. The apparent consensus on this board is that aren't any good teams outside the SEC because every thread about a non-SEC team is loaded with posts that "they're over-rated", "they wouldn't win a game in the SEC", "blah blah blah".

In fact, your statistics proved LC right since 7 of the BCSCG's have been won by non-SEC teams.

I think most of us are saying that there are good teams, but in terms of overall CONFERENCE strength, it's hard to beat the SEC. Many undefeated teams in another conference wouldn't enjoy the same record within the SEC. And as illustrated in my post, when an SEC team has made it to the big game, they HAVE WON.

And how did my stats prove LC correct? First, the SEC was not in any of those games, including one year that an undefeated Auburn team was not invited, so how could they win a game they didn't have a team in? The strength of the SEC those years usually caused its teams to have a defeat on record, which didn't match up BCS-wise against the teams that had an easier conference road to an undefeated season. And out of the 6 conferences represented in the BCS games so far, the SEC has been the winner of almost half the BCS games played to date. Not a great stat if there is only one other BCS conference, but there are FIVE others (6 if you count Notre Dame as its own entity). Bottom line, the SEC has won more than twice the number of championships as any other conference. That stat speaks for itself, IMO.

[jott]

Originally Posted by primadox

I think most of us are saying that there are good teams, but in terms of overall CONFERENCE strength, it's hard to beat the SEC. Many undefeated teams in another conference wouldn't enjoy the same record within the SEC. And as illustrated in my post, when an SEC team has made it to the big game, they HAVE WON.

We get that. Half of every thread that's not about an SEC team says nothing but that. No one cares to look at any other team's schedule--if it's not in the SEC it's all crap. We get it. We've heard it over and over and over and over. LC was pointing out the myopic view that so many people hold that there aren't any good teams outside of the SEC. Read every thread about any highly ranked non-SEC team if you disagree with me. You don't get past the 5th post without someone dragging out the same old tired SEC argument. What about Florida? They're going to go the SEC championship game playing no team ranked higher than say 15th.

And how did my stats prove LC correct? First, the SEC was not in any of those games, including one year that an undefeated Auburn team was not invited, so how could they win a game they didn't have a team in? The strength of the SEC those years usually caused its teams to have a defeat on record, which didn't match up BCS-wise against the teams that had an easier conference road to an undefeated season. And out of the 6 conferences represented in the BCS games so far, the SEC has been the winner of almost half the BCS games played to date. Not a great stat if there is only one other BCS conference, but there are FIVE others (6 if you count Notre Dame as its own entity). Bottom line, the SEC has won more than twice the number of championships as any other conference. That stat speaks for itself, IMO.

BECAUSE THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT COMPARING CONFERENCES. The SEC people turn every thread into a comparison of conferences. This thread is about the fact that there ARE good teams outside of the SEC. IT IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT OTHER CONFERENCES BEING BETTER THAN THE SEC. The fact that you pointed out that 7 non-SEC teams have won national championships proves the fact that there are good teams outside of the SEC.

[BoNcHiE]

Sec!!!!!

[MLU]

When has anyone said there weren't good football teams outside the SEC? Is this something that really needed to be said? I just assumed it.

I think the counter-point that fans of SEC teams attempt to make is that you can throw out whatever statistics you choose to bring up. UF might not have run a gaunlet this year, but what will inevitably happen is a BCS CG matchup against an Ohio State, SC, OU, Texas, etc. that many feel is vastly superior and [SEC Team of Your Choice] ends up winning a game that's not nearly as close as the score indicates.

No one gives a **** about the strength of schedule, the out of conference schedule, etc. The ONLY thing that matters is the hardware at the end of the season.

[jott]

Originally Posted by MLU

When has anyone said there weren't good football teams outside the SEC? Is this something that really needed to be said? I just assumed it.

Name them.

The best teams in the PAC-10 in recent years have been OSU and Penn State. I've yet to see much respect for them. In the PAC-10 the best team has been USC. In the Big-12 it's been Oklahoma and Texas. I haven't seen much respect for any of them. Every thread about any of those teams usually ends up in an "SEC is great" thread that concludes that the respective team would lose at least 3-4 games in the SEC.

[jott]

Originally Posted by MLU

When has anyone said there weren't good football teams outside the SEC? Is this something that really needed to be said? I just assumed it.

I think the counter-point that fans of SEC teams attempt to make is that you can throw out whatever statistics you choose to bring up. UF might not have run a gaunlet this year, but what will inevitably happen is a BCS CG matchup against an Ohio State, SC, OU, Texas, etc. that many feel is vastly superior and [SEC Team of Your Choice] ends up winning a game that's not nearly as close as the score indicates.

No one gives a **** about the strength of schedule, the out of conference schedule, etc. The ONLY thing that matters is the hardware at the end of the season.

No one said otherwise. And you're going to play the disrespect card? That might have been rational 4-5 years ago, but that certainly hasn't been true the past few years.

[MLU]

Originally Posted by jott

No one said otherwise. And you're going to play the disrespect card? That might have been rational 4-5 years ago, but that certainly hasn't been true the past few years.

How am I playing the disrespect card? When has the SEC been the victim of disrespect?

[BBLewisIV]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

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Seems to me that you are just jealous. Enjoy the next few games you got before Florida romps you.

[VVextreme]

Originally Posted by MLU

How am I playing the disrespect card? When has the SEC been the victim of disrespect?

Auburn's perfect season comes to mind...

But you are right in that the SEC is generally well-respected these days, but not well liked. Everyone is too busy trying to promote USC and Notre Dame, the little guy Boise, etc.

And when you're on top of college football, you constantly have to deal with the little toy dogs constantly yipping at your ankles. It's annoying. Therefore SEC fans just would rather punt the little doggies across the field by slapping our hardware onto the table than to listen to the constant little doggie barks.

[longhornjeff]

Originally Posted by primadox

1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl

That's the last time the SEC won the BCS while going undefeated.

There has to be a standard. A team should win the BCS, and, beat the system by going undefeated.

[Domination]

Originally Posted by longhornjeff

That's the last time the SEC won the BCS while going undefeated.

There has to be a standard. A team should win the BCS, and, beat the system by going undefeated.

that game still ****** me off.