The human toll of a nuclear blast
MSNBC.com's Dara Brown looks back at the devastating aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
How about few sidebars about Iwo Jima and Saipan and Pearl Harbor too?
How about a sidebar showing Japanese women and kids training with pikes and knives to defend the homeland and fight to the death for the Emperor against the coming invasion?
I guess some things are politically correct and some things aren't.
We live in a nation where our elite are self loathing and are willing and working for our way of life to dissapear. This is yet another daily example of the nation passing into the abyss in front of our eyes...
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The lives that were saved by the end of the war would have been in the millions. In some camps, if we wouldn't have dawdled in getting involved in that war, we could have choked off the Nazi's early and saved countless lives. We've seen the uselessness of political liberalism and waivering enough times in history and are always shocked when people die. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".
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I was just about to post that Mr. Tibbets died. Good thing I did a search as I wouldn't have guessed this thread was about his passing from the title.
In any case, despite what revisionists want us to believe, this man did his job and in doing so prevented millions more from dying in a long, drawn out invasion of the Japanese mainland. I have no love-lost for wartime Japan being of Filipino descent.
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November 1, 2007
Pilot of plane that bombed Hiroshima dies
Paul Tibbets, WWII commander of infamous B-29, requested no headstone http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21578185/
As a Marine Corps veteran, I strongly object to your headline describing the Enola Gay as "infamous."
President Roosevelt used the word "infamous" to describe Japanese actions at Pearl Harbor.
I feel it is highly inappropriate to use it to describe our own bomber which helped end the war.
Please review your headline for accurate word usage.
Also, if MSNBC simply must add a sidebar video entitled The human toll of a nuclear blast,
could we also get a few other sidebars like Suicides at Saipan, The Toll at Iwo Jima and perhaps a highlight video of Japanese women and children undergoing training to fight to the death for the Emperor in the invasion which the bomb averted?
I've always felt that people would have more respect for the EnolaGay if the word "Gay" hadn't been used. The Enola Beast or even Enola Slightly Effeminate Straight Guy would have been more masculine titles.
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He probably saved thousands of American Soldiers Lives. He shall be missed and he should be praised for his bravery and patriotism. I met him here in Monroe back in the 70s with my father ( who was a 20yr Combat Infantryman in the 25th Tropic Lightning division in the pacific during WW2 and later inKorea) while he was visiting his old pilot training school at Selman Field. If not for this guy my father would have probably been killed in the proposed Invasion of Japan under General MacArthur.
The human toll of a nuclear blast MSNBC.com's Dara Brown looks back at the devastating aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
How about few sidebars about Iwo Jima and Saipan and Pearl Harbor too?
How about a sidebar showing Japanese women and kids training with pikes and knives to defend the homeland and fight to the death for the Emperor against the coming invasion?
I guess some things are politically correct and some things aren't.
Was it inevitably necessary to invade and occupy Japan absent the dropping of the atomic bomb?
We'll never know because peace feelers from Japan were ignored. But there was a chance that Japan would have surrendered unconditionally if allowed to keep the emporer.
But we'll never know because the discussion wasn't taken up.
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Pilot of plane that bombed Hiroshima dies
Paul Tibbets, WWII commander of infamous B-29, requested no headstone http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21578185/
"infamous"?
Calling the Enola Gay "infamous" is wrong in my book. Just plain wrong.
Infamous- having the reputation of the worst kind..- Merriam/Webster
I would imagine that a weapon, and use of that weapon , that changed the world forever is the reasoning behind the usage.
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Exactly. I left it out on purpose. Depends on your personal view of the context. Interesting how there can be more than 1 definition. So some can say they used the incorrect word and others can say they didnt. Depends on your view.
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It did drop a bomb that killed between 100,000 - 140,000 people, many civilians. Argue the merits of dropping the bomb versus not dropping the bomb all you want, but it doesn't change that fact.
Am I the only one that is not outraged by MSNBC's word choice?
(Preparing for the standard (R) team questioning of my patriotism in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...)
Exactly. I left it out on purpose. Depends on your personal view of the context. Interesting how there can be more than 1 definition. So some can say they used the incorrect word and others can say they didnt. Depends on your view.
It's pretty clear to me that they intended to imply that the plane, the act and the man were evil, especially given the sidebar video of the physical effects of the attack.
This is called "editorializing."
There's nothing wrong with that, if it's on the editorial page. But this isn't.
It did drop a bomb that killed between 100,000 - 140,000 people, many civilians. Argue the merits of dropping the bomb versus not dropping the bomb all you want, but it doesn't change that fact.
Am I the only one that is not outraged by MSNBC's word choice?
(Preparing for the standard (R) team questioning of my patriotism in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...)
We'll never know because peace feelers from Japan were ignored. But there is a chance that Japan would have surrendered unconditionally if allowed to keep the emporer.
But we'll never no because the discussion wasn't taken up.
The situation wasn't as you're attempting to portray it.
It's pretty clear to me that they intended to imply that the plane, the act and the man were evil, especially given the sidebar video of the physical effects of the attack.
This is called "editorializing."
There's nothing wrong with that, if it's on the editorial page. But this isn't.
It's just as likely here that you have a product of our declining educational standards.
They might not really know what infamous means. Maybe they meant "notorious?"
I had saved a web page on CNN from three or four years ago. It was an article about Iran and Israel's problems with the Iranian nuclear program.
The article featured a side bar with a picture of an Iranian tank and its crew. The caption under the photo was "Iranian tanks massed on the border of Israel."
Now, what was wrong with that statement?
I wrote the editor asking for the inaccuracies to be removed. I'm not sure it was just in response to me but after an hour or so the caption was removed.
Given American geography skills I can't know if the disinformation was intentional or just a reflectiono of the ignorance of the intern or junior staffer who put it together.
We can't really know in this case either.
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"All you have to do is to tell them (the people) they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering
Last edited by blackadder; 11-01-2007 at 01:36 PM.
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