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8/10 @Browns 7:00
TBD @Chargers TBD
8/26 OILERS 7:00
8/31 BALTIMORE 7:00
Regular Season
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9/11 @Vikings 6:10
9/17 PATRIOTS 12:00
9/24 @Panthers 12:00
10/2 @Dolphins 8:30am
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10/15 LIONS 12:00
10/22 @Packers 12:00
10/29 Bears 12:00
11/5 BUCS 3:05
11/12 @Bills 12:00
11/19 REDSKINS 7:25
11/26 @Rams 12:00
12/3 PANTHERS 12:00
12/7 @Falcons 7:25
12/17 JETS 3:05
12/24 FALCONS 12:00
12/31 @Bucs 3:25
Post Season
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2017 Saints Draft
Rd  Pick Player/Pos.
1 (11)  Marshon Lattimore  CB
1 (32)  Ryan Ramczyk OT
2 (42)  Marcus Williams  FS
3 (67)  Alvin Kamara RB
3 (76)  Alex Anzalone LB
3 (103)  Trey  Hendrickson DE
6 (196)  Al-Quadin  Muhammed DE

2017 Undrafted Rookie Free Agent Signings:
Devoroe Lawrence -DT, Aub.
Andrew Lauderdale-OT, NH
Sae Tautu -LB, BYU
Travin Dural -WR, LSU
Cameron Lee -G, Ill. St.
Arthur Maulet -CB, Memphis
Colin Buchanon-G/T, Mia.(Oh)
Cameron Tom-C, S. Miss.
Ahmad Fullwood -WR, Fla.
Joseph Robinson -Woodgett -FB,UMass
Chase Dominguez -LS, Utah
Clint Van Horn -T, Marshall

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2016 Saints Draft
Rd  Pick Player/Pos.
1 (12)  Sheldon Rankins DT
2 (47)  Michael Thomas WR
2 (61)  Von Bell FS
4 (120)  David Oneyemata DT
7 (237)  Daniel Lasco RB
2016 Rookie Free Agents Signings:
Jack Allen, OL, Michigan State
Joseph Cheek, OL, Texas A&M
Ken Crawley, DB, Colorado
Jared Dangerfield, WR, WKU
Trae Elston, DB, Ole Miss
De'Vante Harris, CB, Texas A&M
Marcus Henry, C, Boise State
Sione Houma, FB, Michigan
Dillon Lee, LB, Alabama
Tommylee Lewis, WR, N. Ill.
Ryker Matthews, OT, BYU
DJ Pettway, DL, Alabama
Jeff Schoettmer, S, UNC
Dominique Tovell, LB, UL-Laf.
Landon Turner, G, UNC
John Walker, DB, Colorado
Jordan Williams, WR, Ball St.
Avery Young, OL, Auburn
Jake Lampman WR Ferris St.
Jimmy Pruitt CB San Jose St.
2015 Saints Draft
Rd  Pick Player/Pos.
1 (12)  Andrus Peat OT
1 (31)  Stephone Anthony LB
2 (12)  Hau'Oli Kikaha LB
3 (11)  Garrett Grayson QB
4 (14)  P.J. Williams CB
5 (12)  Davis Tull LB
5 (18) Tyeler Davison DT
5 (31) Damian Swann CB
7 (13) Marcus Murphy RB
2015 Rookie Free Agents Signings: DL - Tavaris Barnes, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry, Bobby Richardson, G - Doniel Gambrell, Cyril Lemon, WR - R.J. Harris, Malcolme Kennedy, OT- Sean Hickey, LB Marcus Pierce-Brewster, Stephon Sanders, TE - Harold Spears, Jack Tabb, LB Henry Coley, OL Antonio Johnson, K Zach Hocker and WR Kyle Prater.
2014 Saints Draft
Rd  Pick Player/Pos.
1 (20)  Brandin Cooks WR
2 (58)  Stan Jean-Baptiste CB
4 (126)  Kahri Fortt ILB
5 (167)  Vinnie Sunseri SS
5 (169)  Ronald Powell DE
6 (202)  Tavon Rooks OT


2013 Saints Draft
Rd  Pick Player/Pos.
1 (15)  Kenny Vaccaro S
3 (75)  Terron Armstead T
3 (82)  John Jenkins DT
5 (144)  Kenny Stills WR
6 (183)  Rufus Johnson DE
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The Daunting Challenges That Await Marshon Lattimore in the NFC South Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Today 12:20 AM

By Derrick -- Tops Sports

After a shocking turn of events in the previous selections of the 2017 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints decided to bolster their secondary when they selected cornerback Marshon Lattimore out of The Ohio State University with the 11th pick in the draft. It is projected that Lattimore will line-up opposite of cornerback Delvin Breaux for the Saints defense this season.

The Saints made the right choice when they selected Lattimore with the 11th pick in the draft, however; there will be numerous obstacles that will stand in his path in the very talented NFC South Division.

On two occasions throughout the season, Lattimore will at least defend against wide receivers such as DeSean Jackson, Mike Evans, Julio Jones, Mohamed Sanu, and Kelvin Benjamin. Those receivers alone are some of the best at the position right now.

Full Article -- Tops Sports
NFL linebacker, former State College standout Nate Stupar holds camp benefiting foundation Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Yesterday 08:53 PM

By John McGonigal -- Centre Daily Times

STATE COLLEGE -- New Orleans Saints linebacker Nate Stupar signed jerseys, shirts and footballs — and shook plenty of hands — on Saturday afternoon at Memorial Field.

Stupar, a State College native, had no qualms with any of it. Rarely did his wide smile fade.

“This was just about giving back to the kids,” the former Penn State standout said. “That’s what State of Hope is about.”
At his old stomping grounds, Stupar hosted “Training Camp 2017” — a full-day football clinic benefitting the State of Hope Foundation, established by the NFL linebacker and his wife, Marissa.

Full Article -- Centre Daily Times
1 New Orleans Saints 2017 Up and Comer: DE Alex Okafor Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Yesterday 05:31 PM

Each NFL season, every team has a player that bears a little added attention. So which performer could turn the corner for the New Orleans Saints in ’17?

Russell S. Baxter -- EndZone Score

Welcome to yet another 32-team series from End Zone Score. In recent months, we took the time to look at each club’s best offseason addition. We even dabbled into some pertinent and historical numbers.

Every NFL season features players that come into their own after a slow start to their careers. It’s tough to tell when each performer’s coming-put party will take place. Some are immediate successes. Others take longer due to numerous circumstances, but they prove to be worth the wait. Here we will try and pinpoint a player from each team in the league that we feel is on the verge of putting it altogether.

Full Article -- EndZone Score
Saints overcoming loss of Terron Armstead headlines latest Twitter mailbag Posted By: mvtrucking Posted On Yesterday 04:27 PM

Full Story – Nola.Com

The New Orleans Saints are officially on a month-long break before the start of training camp in late July.

But there are lingering concerns over the loss of starting left tackle Terron Armstead, who recently underwent successful shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum and projects as out between four to six months.

While the absence of Armstead certainly hurts, the Saints are equipped to continue running the football if the team desires.

Keep in mind the Saints' ground attack finished the 2016 season ranked a respectable 16th in the league, averaging 108.9 yards per game, with Armstead missing nine games.

By Herbie Teope / Times-Picayune

Full Story – Nola.Com
Saints left to tackle problem after being blindsided by Terron Armstead’s injury Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Yesterday 02:52 PM

By Brian Allee-Walsh -- Sun-Herald

NEW ORLEANS Blindsided.

The word aptly describes the initial reaction of New Orleans Saints officials in the wake of the sudden and troubling loss of talented left tackle Terron Armstead, who protects the blind side of right-handed quarterback Drew Brees when No. 9 drops back to pass.

Armstead underwent surgery Monday to repair a torn labrum and is expected to miss four to six months.

And while the news is quite sobering for Who Dat Nation as June slips into July, things could be a lot worse.

For instance, the injury to Armstead could have happened on the eve of the regular season or during the season for that matter, placing coach Sean Payton and General Manager Mickey Loomis in full panic mode. At least, team officials have several personnel options currently on the roster to consider before the start of training camp in late July.

Full Article -- Sun-Herald
Saints rookie CB Marshon Lattimore is working to learn new techniques and a new system Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Yesterday 01:13 PM

By Nick Underhill -- Advocate

It was a scene that probably played out in Columbus countless times.

Marshon Lattimore lined up across from Michael Thomas. Ohio State’s best cornerback versus the college’s best wide receiver. A heavyweight bout between star players who would soon be teammates again in New Orleans.

Ask Lattimore about those days, and he’ll admit that Thomas often had the upper hand. The receiver was older and more physically gifted. Lattimore was just a freshman, trying to figure things out. But another member of the defense expects the rematch to go another way, though he has an admitted bias.

“Right now? I got Marshon all day,” safety and fellow Ohio State product Vonn Bell said. “I’m a defensive guy. What are we talking about? He’s not a rookie. You come in here; you go to work. Don’t look at it as you’re a rookie now. You got to win.”

Full Article -- Advocate
The New Orleans Saints and Jim Henderson are like red beans and rice Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On Yesterday 01:02 PM

There is no way to try and describe my love for the New Orleans Saints. Equally important, no one will ever be able to replicate Jim Henderson’s voice on the radio.

By Dean Mullen -- Who Dat Dish

Being born in New Orleans makes anyone a Saints fan for life. Regardless of the pain and suffering felt from the late 70’s and most of the 1980’s. There were PLENTY of times where the Black and Gold simply made my heart stop. On the other hand, the build up on Sunday afternoons got me*jumping out of bed in the morning. There was church around 11 a.m. and then the rush home to see the kickoff. To put it another way, the Saints were a big part of my childhood.

When it wasn’t Sunday, I spent hours and hours studying my full set of football cards with stats or playing some type of computer game. Furthermore, when no one was around, I would reenact Chuck Muncie or George Rogers by stacking up all the pillows on the sofa and diving over them on my parent’s sofa. Yeah, you could say their was a bit of an obsession there.

Full Article -- Who Dat Dish
New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins could be secret weapon Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-23-2017 11:03 PM

By Rebecca Mills -- Who Dat Dish

The New Orleans Saints have had more lows than highs this offseason. That’s mostly due to the overwhelming number of injuries. Contrary to that, however, Sheldon Rankins is coming back from injury. His rookie year was riddled with ailments, resulting in a lack of playing time. But this year is different; Rankins is in a position to make an impact and break out for the Saints.

Looking back at last season, Rankins only played in nine games. In those game, he managed 20 combined tackles, four sacks, and a forced fumble. For only playing in nine games, those are pretty decent numbers and he showed his worth especially in their last game. With four tackles in that game alone, he was on fire.

As a first-round pick, though, expectations were a lot higher.*With Rankins now healthy, the heat is on. Looking at that last game of the 2016 campaign, he was able to make plays and sack Winston before Winston was able to get the ball out of his hands. That’s going to be key next season as something the Saints defense lacked.

Full Article -- Who Dat Dish
Saints' Terron Armstead recovering following successful shoulder surgery: source Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-23-2017 03:53 PM

By Herbie Teope -- The Times-Picayune

New Orleans Saints*starting left tackle Terron Armstead underwent successful surgery earlier in the week to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder, according to a source familiar with the situation.

Armstead's procedure was performed Monday and he is expected to rehabilitate primarily in New Orleans, the source said.

The recovery process will keep Armstead out of action between four to six months, which places his potential return in mid-October at the earliest and mid-December at the latest.

Full Article -- Picayune
Interview -- Cam Jordan Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-23-2017 03:31 PM

Oklahoma Drill -- NFL Media

NFL Media's Oklahoma Drill series presents exclusive, quick-hitting one-on-one interviews with players and coaches from around the league. No nonsense -- just football experiences directly from the source.

This is my serious training point. I take like a week off, so somewhere around July 1 and 2 is when I really start training super hard -- my way. That's where I'm going [to the gym] two or three times a day. A quick workout in the morning, a little bit longer workout right before or right after lunch, and then right when it gets to the hottest point of the day -- somewhere around 4:30 or five o'clock -- that's where I get that real workout in. I'm looking for the hottest part of the day, something that is going to stretch me mentally, so you get right physically. Then, come season, you know you've done something nobody else has done before, and that's what gets you across.

Minicamp and OTAs, without pads -- I don't really take it for all that I used to. But this is without pads, and we still had a pretty serious blow. We lost a left tackle (Terron Armstead) for a couple months, and hopefully he'll come back by [the start of the] season. I don't know what's going to happen with that -- that's beyond me. You lose a starting left tackle, that really scares you.

Full Interview -- Oklahoma Drill
1 New Saints guard Larry Warford working hard to replicate relationship Zach Strief, Jahri Evans had on right side Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-23-2017 01:15 PM

By Joel Erickson -- Advocate

Larry Warford has always wanted what Zach Strief and Jahri Evans had together.

Drafted in the same class in 2006, Strief and Evans spent so much time playing next to each other that they no longer had to talk when a defense did something unexpected. A look might do the trick; other times they simply knew exactly what the other person would do.

Now, it's up to Warford to build a kind of camaraderie similar to the one Strief and Evans enjoyed, part of the massive responsibility he inherits after signing a four-year, $34 million deal to replace Evans in the offseason.

The process of getting to know each other has become all too familiar for Warford.

"I've played next to, I think, eight different offensive tackles now in five years," Warford said. "That's always a building process. When you play next to somebody for a certain amount of time, you know what they're going to do, you know how they see it, you start seeing defenses the same way and you don't really have to talk anymore."

Full Article -- Advocate
1 Craig Robertson focused on proving himself all over again after surprising first season with Saints Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-23-2017 12:02 AM

By Joel Erickson -- Advocate

Craig Robertson surpassed all expectations in his first season in New Orleans.
Brought in to be a versatile backup and a weapon on special teams, Robertson instead ended up playing a far bigger role on defense.

Three games into the season, Robertson took over for James Laurinaitis at middle linebacker and never looked back, racking up a career-high 115 tackles and leading all Saints defenders by playing 972 snaps, seven more than defensive end Cameron Jordan.

By almost any measure, it was Robertson's best season.

"Doesn't matter, that's last year," Robertson said. "It's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league, you've got to show that you're a better player than what you were last year. I can't look back on last year and say 'Oh, I did this.' " None of that matters."

Full Article -- Advocate
New Orleans Saints offensive lineman Jack Allen ready to compete for roster spot Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-22-2017 10:05 PM

By NOLA.com / Picayune

After being on the New Orleans Saints' practice squad for much of his rookie year, offensive lineman Jack Allen is remaining a student of the game in order to make the 53-man roster in 2017.

Allen was picked up as an undrafted free agent out of Michigan State in the spring of 2016.

Midway through last season, he was moved from the practice squad onto the 53-man roster, but he did not get an opportunity to play. So Allen took that time to learn more about himself and the game.

"Coming here was like being a freshman in high school or college again," Allen said. "I thought I knew a lot, but I found out that I didn't really know anything. So being on the practice squad, I was able to learn a lot more and take more time doing things."

Full Article -- Picayune
Saints to start training camp on July 26 Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-22-2017 09:37 PM

By Nick Underhill -- Advocate

The Saints will have all of their players back at the facility in a little more than a month.

The NFL announced on Thursday that New Orleans' veteran players will*report for training camp on July 26. The rookies will report a week earlier on July 19.

The first day of camp is typically reserved for conditioning tests. The first day of open practice will likely be July 27, though that has not been announced.

Full Article -- Advocate
Saints 2006 Trade For Jahri Evans Pick Named One of Most Lopsided Trades in NFL History Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-22-2017 08:58 PM

The Saints got the 108th pick in the 2006 draft, and it turned into gold.

By Chris Dunnells -- CSC

Say what you want about the “Approximate Value” statistic created by Pro Football Reference (shoutout to coldpizza), but it’s a fairly simple concept where all NFL players, regardless of generation and position, can be statistically compared to other players. Using this tool, numberFire named the 10 most lopsided trades in NFL history. This was done by adding up the AV stat for all players given up by one team in an NFL trade and comparing that to the AV stat for all players received (or players selected from draft picks received) in a trade. Coming in as the 7th most lopsided trade in NFL history: the Saints stealing Jahri Evans in 2006.

On day two of the 2006 draft, the Philadelphia Eagles and New Orleans Saints traded fourth round picks, with veteran defensive lineman Hollis Thomas heading to the Big Easy alongside pick 108...With the Saints' 99th overall selection, Philly took guard Max Jean-Gilles. With the Eagles' 108th pick the Saints took their own guard, Jahri Evans.... While Jean-Gilles started just 26 games and posted an AV of 15 in a short four-year career, Evans -- having accumulated an AV of 135 to date -- is still playing at the age of 33. In 11 seasons with the Saints, Evans was named a Pro Bowler six times and an All-Pro performer four times. His career-best AV (19) is better than Jean-Gilles' output for his entire career. Add in Thomas' 14-year career and 77 AV and you get an overlooked, but lopsided deal all the same.

Full Article -- CSC
1 Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro hasn't met any of his goals yet Posted By: Dan in Lafayette Posted On 06-22-2017 08:23 PM

By Josh Katzenstein -- Picayune

Kenny Vaccaro has had four productive seasons with the New Orleans Saints. He's also one of the few young players on the roster with playoff experience having played two postseason games as a rookie.

But, as Vaccaro looks toward his fifth season, he wants more. A lot more.

"I haven't met any of my goals, and it ****** me off, really," he said. "I want to really, really, really work hard this summer and prepare for the season that I need to have because I feel like a lot of people know it's in me. A lot of people know I'm good, but I haven't earned the respect that I need and I want that."

Full Article -- Picayune
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Mike D's Very Early Look at the Top 52 Prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft
Posted On 06-08-2017

A Very Early Look at the Top 52 Prospects for the 2018 NFL Draft

By Mike Detillier

1. Sam Darnold, Quarterback, USC

2. Josh Allen, Quarterback, Wyoming

3. Arden Key, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker, LSU

4. Derwin James, Safety, Florida State

5. Saquon Barkley, Halfback, Penn State

6. Malik Jefferson, Middle/Outside Linebacker, Texas

7. Josh Rosen, Quarterback, UCLA

8. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Cornerback/Free Safety, Alabama

9. Christian Kirk, Wide Receiver, Texas A&M

10. Bradley Chubb, Defensive End, North Carolina State

11. Derrius Guice, Halfback, LSU

12. Courtland Sutton, Wide Receiver, SMU

13. Christian Wilkins, Defensive Tackle, Clemson

14. Tarvarus McFadden, Cornerback, Florida State

15. Harold Landry, Defensive End/OLB, Boston College

16. Sam Hubbard, Defensive End, Ohio State

17. Calvin Ridley, Wide Receiver, Alabama

18. Vita Vea, Defensive Tackle, Washington

19. Mike McGlinchey, Offensive Tackle, Notre Dame

20. Trey Adams, Offensive Tackle, Washington

21. Cameron Smith, Middle Linebacker, USC

22. Marquis Haynes, Outside Linebacker, Ole Miss

23. Mark Andrews, Tight End, Oklahoma

24. Mason Rudolph, Quarterback, Oklahoma State

25. Jaylon Ferguson, Defensive End, Louisiana Tech

26. Lamar Jackson, Quarterback, Louisville

27. James Washington, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State

28. Clelin Ferrell, Defensive End, Clemson

29. Da'Shawn Hand, Defensive End, Alabama

30. Iman Marshall, Cornerback, USC

31. Tyquan Lewis, Defensive End, Ohio State

32. Martez Ivey, Offensive Tackle/Guard, Florida

33. Jaire Alexander, Cornerback, Louisville

34. Lowell Lotulelei, Defensive Tackle, Utah

35. Connor Williams, Offensive Tackle, Texas

36. Marcus Allen, Free/Strong Safety, Penn State

37. Bo Scarbrough, Halfback, Alabama

38. Deon Cain, Wide Receiver, Clemson

39. Martinas Rankin, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State

40. Jerome Baker, Outside Linebacker, Ohio State

41. Royce Freeman, Halfback, Oregon

42. Derrick Nnadi, Defensive Tackle, Florida State

43. Da'Ron Payne, Defensive Tackle, Alabama

44. Orlando Brown, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma

45. Baker Mayfield, Quarterback, Oklahoma

46. Troy Fumagalli, Tight End, Wisconsin

47. Quenton Nelson, Offensive Guard, Notre Dame

48. Dante Pettis, Wide Receiver, Washington

49. Quin Blanding, Strong Safety, Virginia

50. Armani Watts, Free Safety, Texas A&M

51. Larry Allen, Jr., Offensive Guard, Harvard

52. Micah Kiser, Inside Linebacker, Virginia

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Kamara’s Early Impact and Much More -- Mike Detillier
Posted On 05-07-2017

Kamara’s Early Impact and Much More

By Mike Detillier

Coming out of every NFL draft folks ask about immediate impact players for their respective teams. Every once in a while you get a signature player as a rookie as a pass rusher or defensive back, but most of those immediate first year impact guys are on offense at halfback or wide receiver.

Last season the San Diego Chargers got a big impact hit on defense with the selection of defensive end Joey Bosa and in 2015 the Kansas City Chiefs hit early gold in cornerback Marcus Peters, but in 2016 look at the impact wide receiver Michael Thomas made with the New Orleans Saints and the huge impact halfback Ezekiel Elliott had with the Dallas Cowboys.

Early contributions of wide receivers Odell Beckham, Jr., DeAndre Hopkins, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans and Jarvis Landry made them Year 1 impact players in the NFL.

While cornerback Marshon Lattimore and free safety Marcus Williams are talented players to add to the Saints defensive squad and it is so needed, I believe the Year 1 impact performer will be Tennessee halfback Alvin Kamara.

He fits the role that Reggie Bush and Darren Sproles played so well with the Black and Gold and his receiving skills will eat up some of the catches wide receiver Brandin Cooks had on the offensive side of the ball.

With Cooks now in New England, the combination of Kamara and the addition of veteran wideout Ted Ginn, Jr. should fill in that huge opening of catches out on the field.

As a rookie Reggie Bush split time with Deuce McAllister at the halfback spot, but the former USC Heisman Trophy winner was the ideal fit in Sean Payton’s offense as the back in the slot as a receiver, the receiver catching the swing pass, the edge runner and punt returner.

While McAllister was still considered the lead-dog runner Bush touched the ball 271 times in 2006 as a runner, receiver and return man and contributed 1,523 yards of all-purpose yards.

Sproles was an established performer when he came to the Saints after six seasons with the San Diego Chargers, but in his first season with New Orleans in 2011 he touched the ball 242 times for 2,696 yards as a runner, receiver, punt returner and kickoff return man which set a new NFL all-purpose yardage mark.

One AFC general manager told me his team tried to trade up into the 3rd round to draft the speedy Volunteer halfback.

“We had to go defense in Round #2 to fill a huge need spot, but when Alvin fell into Round #3 we started making calls,” the AFC general manager said. “We knew other teams were too and we had found a trade partner, but the Saints got him first. We thought he could be a “Jamaal Charles-Kansas City Chiefs” type edge back and receiver. Before the knee injuries settled in with Jamaal he was a really good back and we were willing to part with multiple picks to get Kamara. He’s a great fit for the Saints. It is part of the business you miss out on a player that really can boost an offense quickly in the league and Kamara could have done that with us and he will with New Orleans.”

With Mark Ingram still the heavy-duty rushing back and him being backed up by 32-year old and future NFL Hall of Fame halfback Adrian Peterson, the speedy Kamara may not get 271 or 242 touches in the 2017 season, but you can bet the bank Sean Payton has a specific and extensive role for him in the Saints... Read More...
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