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Old 02-24-2012, 09:49 PM   #1
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You're in America, Speak English

interesting article from the washington post.
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You’re in America. Speak English.

That’s what my parents say. And it’s exactly what they did when they came to this country from Czechoslovakia more than four decades ago, knowing nothing more than the lyrics to the Beach Boys’ “Sloop John B.”

My parents would be all over the legislation passed this week by the Frederick County board of commissioners making English the official language of a fast-growing and increasingly diverse place.

And why not? No driver’s test or school registration form or ballot was printed for them in Czech. If they wanted to live in the United States and prosper, they had to learn English.

In fact, all the immigrants I talked to in Frederick this week — people who came here from India, Nigeria, Vietnam and Pakistan — took the same position as my parents: They had to learn to function in English as soon as they hit American soil.

Hearing all of their stories, and knowing my own, I agree.

But touting universal English gives me pause because it puts me in the uncomfortable position of making common cause with xenophobes. The folks who pushed for this legislation in Frederick aren’t doing it because they want to commune with their new neighbors. They aren’t offering English immersion classes or anything else constructive.

Declaring English the official language is a backhanded slap at immigration and immigrants, usually aimed at Hispanics. It’s straight-up code for Get Out from people freaking out because their town is starting to look less and less like them.

And it’s kind of funny that this is the tactic they choose, because the ability to speak fluent English is hugely empowering for immigrants..................

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Old 02-24-2012, 09:54 PM   #2
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I think the same immigrants already made the point why it's pointless to make English the official language.

They had to learn English in order to really live and prosper in the United States. That's the great motivator. If they choose not to learn, they limit themselves simply by their own actions. Why should we waste time, energy, and manpower trying to force English onto people?
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
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I think the same immigrants already made the point why it's pointless to make English the official language.

They had to learn English in order to really live and prosper in the United States. That's the great motivator. If they choose not to learn, they limit themselves simply by their own actions. Why should we waste time, energy, and manpower trying to force English onto people?
Thank you. Legislating language is possibly the dumbest waste of time our government can partake in.

I don't speak Spanish. But if I moved to Spain, I would begin learning it, so I could assimilate into the culture properly. It wouldn't matter one iota if Spanish were the official language of Spain.
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Some of these people can't read are write there own language.
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Some of these people can't read are write there own language.
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Thank you. Legislating language is possibly the dumbest waste of time our government can partake in.
is it a bigger waste of time or money than say the state of California printing all of its forms in multiple languages, in some cases up to 27 different ones costing hundreds of millions dollars. I'm all for speaking what ever you want but I think all business done at any level of government should be in English. or maybe they should stop wasting time with this and just round up all the illegals and ship them somewhere else.
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is it a bigger waste of time or money than say the state of California printing all of its forms in multiple languages, in some cases up to 27 different ones costing hundreds of millions dollars. I'm all for speaking what ever you want but I think all business done at any level of government should be in English. or maybe they should stop wasting time with this and just round up all the illegals and ship them somewhere else.

Can you back that up with more information or is it one of those chain email sort of 'facts'?
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we are probably the only country in the world that makes such a big deal about people having to learn said countries language. Other countries it is just how it used to be in this country a long time ago... you don't know the language... you need to learn it or you will struggle... America is getting soft... is soft. We are the worlds *****.
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I have no problem with it. The government is wasting money printing everything in multiple languages. Right now, you can live and succeed in the U.S. without speaking english. That was not always the case. If you can succeed without learning english, there is no incentive to learn it.
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was I the only one that had to press 1 to read this thread in english
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Can you back that up with more information or is it one of those chain email sort of 'facts'?
the DMV handbook is printed in at least 9 languages including tagalog and punjabi. you can check their website if you'd like.
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the DMV handbook is printed in at least 9 languages including tagalog and punjabi. you can check their website if you'd like.
I saw that it was available in those languages through a PDF files, which takes less then a thousand for a translator. I see no information on them spending hundreds of millions to print them up.
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