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Old 09-23-2017, 06:55 PM   #106
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The story is not complete as the recent publicization of a large number of unmasking requests made by Susan Powers has surfaced.
And there is no question that something went wrong given the leaks of those unmasked names to the general public.
No matter what you're presented with you keep finding a way to circle back to insinuating it was all politically motivated, nefarious, that none of us are safe from the government and that we should all be running around in a panic over what "might" have "really" happened.

I'd easily mistake you for a Macedonian computer geek if I didn't know otherwise. The more you try to make something out of this the more you remind me of Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:16 PM   #107
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I found this explanation of the process helpful. It does contain some educated guesswork, before anyone jumps all over it. It provides a reasonable explanation of what Mueller may be looking for and presumably finding.

"Which brings us to Mueller’s criminal investigation on Manafort. To get Manafort to talk, Mueller needs some, shall we say, “incentives.” The prospect of serious jail time for not cooperating is usually effective. The problem is that, for all of Manafort’s red-flaggy behavior with the Ukrainians and the Russians, there aren’t really a lot of laws against spying. There’s the Espionage Act, which relates to defense and classified information and doesn’t apply in the current scenario. And there’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, which as Steve Vladeck explains is a procedural statute: People or entities designated as foreign agents must register if the Department of Justice asks them to, but as long as they comply, they are out of the crosshairs of criminal prosecution. Manafort retroactively registered as a foreign agent in June.

Financial crimes, by contrast, carry significant penalties, particularly when multiple charges are added together. Here is where the FISA orders could have come into play again. It’s important to emphasize that the goal of using a FISA warrant is not to collect evidence of a crime; it’s to collect foreign intelligence information. However, since 9/11 and the passage of the Patriot Act, evidence of criminal activity that is obtained through the course of a FISA investigation can be used to open a criminal case, as long as a “significant purpose” of the FISA inquiry was to obtain foreign intelligence. Here, the FISA warrants on Manafort were based on his intelligence connections. But if he was engaging in financial shenanigans, related or unrelated to his alleged intelligence activities, signs of it may have become apparent during the FISA monitoring, allowing the FBI to open a separate criminal case on Manafort—which is where we are now."

What Robert Mueller has on Paul Manafort could be the key line of the Russia investigation.

The article also explains the differences when the subject of a FISA warrant is a US citizen. There are additional hoops the FBI had to jump through in both cases. I'd be very interested on SBTB's take on this article.
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Glad to know a "judicial expert" reassures us that a secret court with virtually no accountability is on the up-and-up.
Your standards change depending on which political party you are discussing. You are ok with Trmp's conflicts of interests, that he quite possibly colluded with the Russians, that his staff were agents tied to Russian interests but you choose this hair to split.

You could swallow an elephant and choke on a pea.
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