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Old 10-01-2017, 09:16 PM   #1
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Kasich posturing for 2020 Libertarian or Democratic ticket?

I'm interested.

Kasich: If GOP can't be 'fixed,' I can't support it
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It's easy to answer the obvious question "How much better off would this country be had we elected Kasich instead of Trump?"
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He got my vote once, I'd certainly give it to him again over any of the others that ran, regardless of whatever ticket be ran on.
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I wanted him over Trump. But...ugh...I'm not even gonna try to rationalize why people thought Trump was a better candidate than Kasich...disappointing.
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Despite a public alliance with Colorado Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper on major policy issues, such as health care reform and immigration, Kasich denied in August that the two would launch a White House bid in 2020 as independents on a unity ticket.
They'd get my vote as of now
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Not sure how smart it is to trust a guy swapping parties. I loke Kasich, but not sure I like this.

But after reading the article, he just wants to pull the GOP more middle.
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Trump has to **** up a little more, you know like kill someone himself or beat Melania before Kasich can ever win a Republican ticket. Those may not be enough, IJS. The only thing Trump can do to lose that vote over there, is to kneel beside Kaepernick, start wearing Black Lives Matter t-shirts and constantly praise President Obama. He start doing all that, constantly, those folks will go back to ground and the Party can get a real statesman.

Until then, Kasich would be advised to run as a Libertarian or something, so that he can actually run for the office. He would get votes from bith sides.
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I wanted him over Trump. But...ugh...I'm not even gonna try to rationalize why people thought Trump was a better candidate than Kasich...disappointing.
Kasich is pretty bland personality-wise & the party itself was too split between candidates for him to garner enough support.
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Over the years in most elections I have voted for democrats over republicans, social issues usually tipping the scale for my vote. But I cross part lines easily and am not a one issue voter.

I do look at spending a lot and am all about balancing the budget. I find republicans as a rule donít spend less than democrats, they just move the money to the military from social programs.

I watched most all of the debates, something I rarely do. There is no doubt Trump pushed the tv ratings up, the republican debates were like watching a Jerry Springer show.

Kasich impressed me the most. I would have most certainly picked him over Clinton. His post election debate with Bernie Sanders was impressive. Their views on some things could not have been more apart, but that did not keep them from finding common ground on other issues.
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Not sure how smart it is to trust a guy swapping parties. I loke Kasich, but not sure I like this.

But after reading the article, he just wants to pull the GOP more middle.
But these are abnormal times. Any other time, I'd question question such a move myself, but like Shizzle said...
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Yeah, sign me up for that ticket. Karich had my vote early on before he dropped out. I still find it crazy that he didn't see more traction. He was well loved in Ohio, and Ohio (as much as I hate OSU) is a fairly level state. I usually give the benefit of the doubt to a Republican that can win in a Blue state, and he did. He is less dividing than either Trump or Clinton, and that is what had me sure that he would win.

I am looking forward to this ticket, because if it happens, I think Americans have seen enough where they now recognize that there must be a better way.
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Let me first say that I think Kasich is a very reasonable man and a good person. Would I have voted for him over Trump if those were the choices? Hell. Yes. Would I vote for him over a Democrat if I sided more with him? Of course. He holds many palatable positions.

Admittedly though my views are pretty far "left" and he just comes off as a centrist like Clinton without any ideas I'd get too excited about. He has taken a few issues that I'd be wary of that don't align with my personal beliefs:

He has tried to defund Planned Parenthood
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Though he passed Medical Marijuana bill, he is generally against legalization for rec use
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That's a smaller than average list of things I'd disagree with a Republican on--and again, if there aren't better choices available--he would be a perfectly safe choice for me. What I appreciate about Kasich is that he seems to be open to conversation on a lot of issues and not completely closed off to certain ideas like a lot of other politicians from both sides. Just personal preference, I suppose.
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Let me first say that I think Kasich is a very reasonable man and a good person. Would I have voted for him over Trump if those were the choices? Hell. Yes. Would I vote for him over a Democrat if I sided more with him? Of course. He holds many palatable positions.

Admittedly though my views are pretty far "left" and he just comes off as a centrist like Clinton without any ideas I'd get too excited about. He has taken a few issues that I'd be wary of that don't align with my personal beliefs:

He has tried to defund Planned Parenthood
His position on death penalty
Though he passed Medical Marijuana bill, he is generally against legalization for rec use
He wanted to freeze all federal regulations for a year--including environmental
He wants to cut social security to "save it"--still questionable position there
Eliminated the Ohio estate tax
Seems more focused on "school choice" than aiding public schools
Wishy-washy on gun control measures other than registering mentally ill


That's a smaller than average list of things I'd disagree with a Republican on--and again, if there aren't better choices available--he would be a perfectly safe choice for me. What I appreciate about Kasich is that he seems to be open to conversation on a lot of issues and not completely closed off to certain ideas like a lot of other politicians from both sides. Just personal preference, I suppose.
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Let me first say that I think Kasich is a very reasonable man and a good person. Would I have voted for him over Trump if those were the choices? Hell. Yes. Would I vote for him over a Democrat if I sided more with him? Of course. He holds many palatable positions.

Admittedly though my views are pretty far "left" and he just comes off as a centrist like Clinton without any ideas I'd get too excited about. He has taken a few issues that I'd be wary of that don't align with my personal beliefs:

He has tried to defund Planned Parenthood
His position on death penalty
Though he passed Medical Marijuana bill, he is generally against legalization for rec use
He wanted to freeze all federal regulations for a year--including environmental
He wants to cut social security to "save it"--still questionable position there
Eliminated the Ohio estate tax
Seems more focused on "school choice" than aiding public schools
Wishy-washy on gun control measures other than registering mentally ill


That's a smaller than average list of things I'd disagree with a Republican on--and again, if there aren't better choices available--he would be a perfectly safe choice for me. What I appreciate about Kasich is that he seems to be open to conversation on a lot of issues and not completely closed off to certain ideas like a lot of other politicians from both sides. Just personal preference, I suppose.
That's fair. I don't think you'll find a politician who has a good mix of positions from both sides...but I agree that one of the positives of Kasich is that he seems to be willing to have a discussion, and even go along with some ideas he might not fully agree with if that means accomplishing more as a practical matter. He seems to me to be more about about getting things done than being "right"on issues. Works for me.
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