Marching to world domination: Why the West should be worried about China (1 Viewer)

[SWJJ]

Marching to world domination: Why the West should be worried about China


China today celebrated its wealth and rising might with a show of goose-stepping troops, gaudy floats and nuclear-capable missiles in Beijing, 60 years after Mao Zedong proclaimed its embrace of communism.
Tiananmen Square became a hi-tech stage to celebrate the birth of the People's Republic of China on October 1, 1949, with President Hu Jintao, wearing a slate grey 'Mao' suit, and the Communist Party leadership watching the meticulously disciplined show from the Gate of Heavenly Peace over the Square. Here DOMINIC SANDBROOK explains why the West should be so wary of the new superpower.

By Dominic Sandbrook

The bunting is out, the streets have been cleared, the troops are making their final preparations, and even the massive portrait of Mao on the Tiananmen Gate seems to wear a more self-satisfied expression than usual.

Today, China will celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist Party rule with flowers, fireworks, performances and a huge military parade which will celebrate the country's new-found military might.
The regime has come an enormously long way in six decades, from a society of peasant collective farms, hidden from the world behind a veil of secrecy


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...rs-communism-display-military-worry-West.html

I have been saying this for years.
I for one will NOT welcome our new chinese overlords.

 

[blackadder]

Marching to world domination: Why the West should be worried about China


China today celebrated its wealth and rising might with a show of goose-stepping troops, gaudy floats and nuclear-capable missiles in Beijing, 60 years after Mao Zedong proclaimed its embrace of communism.
Tiananmen Square became a hi-tech stage to celebrate the birth of the People's Republic of China on October 1, 1949, with President Hu Jintao, wearing a slate grey 'Mao' suit, and the Communist Party leadership watching the meticulously disciplined show from the Gate of Heavenly Peace over the Square. Here DOMINIC SANDBROOK explains why the West should be so wary of the new superpower.

By Dominic Sandbrook

The bunting is out, the streets have been cleared, the troops are making their final preparations, and even the massive portrait of Mao on the Tiananmen Gate seems to wear a more self-satisfied expression than usual.

Today, China will celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist Party rule with flowers, fireworks, performances and a huge military parade which will celebrate the country's new-found military might.
The regime has come an enormously long way in six decades, from a society of peasant collective farms, hidden from the world behind a veil of secrecy


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...rs-communism-display-military-worry-West.html

I have been saying this for years.
I for one will NOT welcome our new chinese overlords.

From a strictly objective view of history and human nature, you worry about any nation that becomes disproportionately powerful. Plenty of examples.

Athens was democratic yet devolved into an Empire exploiting the threat of the Persians in order to rule the other city states until they rose up against Athens, causing Athens to lose its power due to over-extension and overspending in the effort to try to sustain the empire.

Romans started as a Republic, ended up as a totalitarian empire.

Etc. Etc.

But at this point, China's power is vastly over-rated. They have a nuclear deterrent and enough teeth to give problems to anyone who would attack or invade China but they have no capacity to project globally, or sustain any large scale overseas deployment.

The biggest power/leverage they have is economic and we handed that to them. They can financially hoist the U.S. on its own petard by simply electing not to lend any more money to the US government.

Whose idea was this, to put the entire U.S. economy at the mercy of a foreign banker? Did China force us into this arrangement?

Look in Washington and New York. Look in the mirror.

I'm not worried about China attacking the US at all. The more likely scenario is that China continues to use its economic power to press down different paths in its global economic relationships influenced by "Asian values" -- that China does deals of all kinds in places where we are used to having a trade and finance monopoly.

That China provides competition.

People don't like competition. They only talk up its benefits when they are winning. When they actually face real competition, they start talking about threats to their well being.

Economic competition throughout history leads to war. Follow the money. That's the scenario I see as likely. But despite the underlying economic competition, the rhetoric will be about "freedom" and "human rights" etc. etc. The model is well established.

China isn't interested in conquering the US or taking away our Constitution. What I think you are worried about is that this country willingly relinquished full freedom of action through fiscal profligacy. When your banker owns you, your freedom of action is gone.

And China is our banker.

 

[Hey Beerman]

I for one will NOT welcome our new chinese overlords.

Even if they come with a choice of white knee high boots or black??

 

[Flipx99]

From a strictly objective view of history and human nature, you worry about any nation that becomes disproportionately powerful. Plenty of examples.

Athens was democratic yet devolved into an Empire exploiting the threat of the Persians in order to rule the other city states until they rose up against Athens, causing Athens to lose its power due to over-extension and overspending in the effort to try to sustain the empire.

Romans started as a Republic, ended up as a totalitarian empire.

Etc. Etc.

But at this point, China's power is vastly over-rated. They have a nuclear deterrent and enough teeth to give problems to anyone who would attack or invade China but they have no capacity to project globally, or sustain any large scale overseas deployment.

The biggest power/leverage they have is economic and we handed that to them. The can financially hoist the U.S. on its own petard by simply electing not to lend any more money to the US government.

Whose ides was this, to put the entire U.S. economy at the mercy of a foreign banker? Look in Washington and New York. Look in the mirror.

I'm not worried about China attacking the US at all. The more likely scenario is that China continues to use its economic power to press down different paths in its global economic relationships influenced by "Asian values" -- that China does deals of all kinds in places where we are used to having a trade and finance monopoly.

That China provides competition.

People don't like competition. They only talk up its benefits when they are winning.

Economic competition throughout history leads to war. Follow the money. That's the scenario I see as likely. But despite the underlying economic competitioin, the rhetoric will be about "freedom" and "human rights" etc. etc. The model is well established.

China isn't interested in conquering the US or taking away our Constitution. What I think you are worried about is that this country willingly relinquished full freedom of action through fiscal profligacy. When your banker owns you, your freedom of action is gone.

And China is our banker.

I think you nailed it.

 

[Krewe of Clyde's]

Well said blackladder.

 

[St. Widge]

I thought is was going to be about someone putting red and yellow lights on a building. I'm pleasantly surprised to see it's not. There was a Nightline two part series a while back on the economic power building in China. They seem poised to out Capitalism the rest of the world. Although they do have one inherent problem and that is a really high population. As a result of high population numbers, they sometimes force industries to do things in inefficient ways so that they can keep their unemployment rate down. They also subsidize industry even more than we do. The question is will those industries strat to make money before the government runs out of money.

 

[BullDawg]

Even if they come with a choice of white knee high boots or black??

Maybe a Chinese invasion wouldn't be so bad after all.

 

[cdogg]

Maybe a Chinese invasion wouldn't be so bad after all.

I just don't think I could get used to their sideways *******.