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This speaks volumes about the Democrats lack of solutions and abundance of complaints. When your enemies favor your beliefs your enemy has just increased.
I must say I'm dissapointed with the so called shift yet am optimistic that some of these new Dems are conservative such as Heath Shuler which will add favorably to the restoration of values. This midterm election catered to the impatience of the average American who is so use to results in a microwave minute. The liberal media catered what the Dems put on the menu, and most Americans who believe the one sided negative portrayal of the war ate up the plate. The Revolutionary War took time, Civil War took time, Hitler took time; yet we don't have the patience this time? I hope we don't pay by looking the other way. God have grace on U.S.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747
 
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sour grapes...
republicrats win again...
 
Mark Steyn's brief in National Review Online is spot-on. The 2004 ratified the Iraq policy, which was either "solved" by 2006 or Republicans would be turned out.

The current era demands quick wars, and God forbid we sustain casualties prior to an election. Foreign policy is still the perogative of the Executive branch, and that will last until 2009, when the Shiites and Sunnis will revert to killing each other without us as spectators.
 
Good luck getting people to take your post seriously.

To me, it's nothing more than meaningless demagoguery and right-wing talking points.

Republicans lost arguably because they don't believe in responsible, small government any more.
 
Here's a good summary by Boortz which pretty much sums it up for me.

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

When I got up at 4:00 this morning and started to look at results, I can honestly say that I was neither surprised nor disappointed. I've been saying this for weeks ... and I'll say it again right now ... this may be the best possible outcome for the future of our Republic....

This is good news .. and bad news. Good news because of the message it sends to Republicans. Bad news because of the message it sends to Islamic jihadists who are dedicated to the destruction of our culture.

....The Republicans worked very hard for this defeat. They've earned every lost seat. The Republican majority that was sent packing yesterday bore little resemblance to the Republican majority that rode to power 12 years ago. In 1994 we were promised less government. Over the next 12 years the Republicans more than doubled the size of the government. We were promised control over runaway spending. In the last six years discretionary spending has doubled. We were promised fiscal responsibility. We got a bridge to nowhere in Alaska. We were promised the elimination of the Department of Education. After all, educational achievement had been on a steady decline since education was federalized under this Department. In no time at all the Republicans doubled funding for the Department of Education. In the meanwhile America continues to slip on the international scorecard of educational achievement.
 
Mark Steyn's brief in National Review Online is spot-on. The 2004 ratified the Iraq policy, which was either "solved" by 2006 or Republicans would be turned out.

The current era demands quick wars, and God forbid we sustain casualties prior to an election. Foreign policy is still the perogative of the Executive branch, and that will last until 2009, when the Shiites and Sunnis will revert to killing each other without us as spectators.

Exactly. Of course, everyone knew that except apparently Bush and company. Americans tolerance for long drawn out wars that aren't directly on our doorstep is very, very small. This is not new. Therefore, every combat scenario should be drawn out with clear definition of how it will end, and a plan to bring about that scenario within a few years, or face electoral wrath.

That's the way it is... everyone has to deal with it.

Also, the Republicans also lost focus in their 12 years of Congressional power. The budget ballooned, legislative discipline collapsed, wedge issues dominated discussion, etc.

As Boortz says, this probably helps Republican chances to keep the White House in 2008. Chances are, the Democrats will fare no better now that they have some power.
 
Here's a good summary by Boortz which pretty much sums it up for me.

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

When I got up at 4:00 this morning and started to look at results, I can honestly say that I was neither surprised nor disappointed. I've been saying this for weeks ... and I'll say it again right now ... this may be the best possible outcome for the future of our Republic....

This is good news .. and bad news. Good news because of the message it sends to Republicans. Bad news because of the message it sends to Islamic jihadists who are dedicated to the destruction of our culture.

....The Republicans worked very hard for this defeat. They've earned every lost seat. The Republican majority that was sent packing yesterday bore little resemblance to the Republican majority that rode to power 12 years ago. In 1994 we were promised less government. Over the next 12 years the Republicans more than doubled the size of the government. We were promised control over runaway spending. In the last six years discretionary spending has doubled. We were promised fiscal responsibility. We got a bridge to nowhere in Alaska. We were promised the elimination of the Department of Education. After all, educational achievement had been on a steady decline since education was federalized under this Department. In no time at all the Republicans doubled funding for the Department of Education. In the meanwhile America continues to slip on the international scorecard of educational achievement.


Exactly. The war is still the trumping card, but there were many other issues that American voters disagreed with under the present regime. If the Rep begin to cry sour grapes and attack-attack-attack over the next two years, they will be surprised again in 729 days. My advice is to turn the hannity-ingraham-limbaugh station down a bit and listen to the real people of this country.

My .02
 
The Iraq war is the #1 issue with me. Many people seem to continue to argue the justifications originally given to go to war. I am long past that and just want an end to it - an immediate withdrawal - nothing less. If Bush wants to occupy the airport and control air space so be it but an immediate withdrawal is what I want. Soldiers are dieing and getting maimed by the hundreds each month and we are spending billions on a useless and stupid war.
 
The Bush administration, the Republican led Senate and the Republican led House failed the American people. The Democrats now have an incredible opportunity to change our direction in Iraq, to make policy on immigration, health care, and to lead our nation away from depending on foriegn oil. If they don't, remember that the next time you go to vote. Eventually, politicians may get the message. They are there to serve the American people, not big oil, the drug companies, and special interests groups.
 
I agree that this may just end up mobilizing conservatives in 2008 in response to actions of Democrats in the next two years. It will be hard to satisfy the wide range of views that voted for them in this election cycle. I think most people realize that ethics plagues both parties, the economy is doing OK, and we have not had a terrorist attack on our soil, so this is a referendum on the war, plain and simple with a bit of big government thrown in also. If not for us being in Iraq, things are going pretty well on average nationally.

I admit I do lean conservative, and am not happy with Iraq, but I just don't see how Democrats are going to have the best plan for terrorism and will never be small government either, no matter what they are saying today to please moderates. Too much of their base is either far left in their values and/or think of government as a "sugar daddy" (can't think of a more intellectual way to say it), and keeping them happy will only alienate the moderates of this country. We may be looking at the starting point in the change in that cycle direction. So for a Republican, this is the best news for them, because this election starts that change in cycle direction now instead of 2008. Think if that shift in cycle could not relieve its built up stress till 2008, Democrats would own every office by a wide margin then. 2008 may come to soon, but lets see how liberal Democrats act in view of what they see as a mandate for change.
 
The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. When they swept into the majority in 1994, they made a contract with America, and for a couple of years things were going well, but they seem to have forgotten why they were elected.

That, plus the number of elected officials on both sides who have been involved in either illegal or immoral activities. The people are not going to accept such activities from their elected representatives, except in Louisiana, of course.
 
The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. When they swept into the majority in 1994, they made a contract with America, and for a couple of years things were going well, but they seem to have forgotten why they were elected.

That, plus the number of elected officials on both sides who have been involved in either illegal or immoral activities. The people are not going to accept such activities from their elected representatives, except in Louisiana, of course.

I agree.

The GOP shot themselves in the backside, over and over and over. Eventually, that catches up to you.

Hopefully, the coming shakeup at the top of the party will result in some of these clowns taking the hint.


Also (and related):


Newt '08! He's tanned, rested and ready......
 
This speaks volumes about the Democrats lack of solutions and abundance of complaints. When your enemies favor your beliefs your enemy has just increased.
I must say I'm dissapointed with the so called shift yet am optimistic that some of these new Dems are conservative such as Heath Shuler which will add favorably to the restoration of values. This midterm election catered to the impatience of the average American who is so use to results in a microwave minute. The liberal media catered what the Dems put on the menu, and most Americans who believe the one sided negative portrayal of the war ate up the plate. The Revolutionary War took time, Civil War took time, Hitler took time; yet we don't have the patience this time? I hope we don't pay by looking the other way. God have grace on U.S.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52747



What war is this? What are the objectives? What is victory? An "acceptable" government?

The liklihood is that anything we find acceptable is something average Iraqi is going to view as a puppet regime.

This is all BS. We are not fighting a war. We are nation building and using our military as a police force. The war was over in 2003 and we should have left then and left Iraq to sort itself out and find its own legitimate form of government.

Anything imposed by us will not be viewed as legitimate. Yet we are fighting to impose it anyway. This is why this is a quagmire, not a war.
 
This is the worst thread ever. Tak, you're sour grapes are disappointing though not surprising.

I'm going to start my own thread.

This is ridiculous
 

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