N/S: Hines Ward - NFL's Hypocritical, Doesn't Care about Players (1 Viewer)

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he makes good points...but, why are steeler players always *****ing about something?
 
I disagree.

The NFL makes money off stars being on the field. They have been trying to get tougher since Roger Goodell has taken over on hits, as well as improve the NFLs image on players being responsible on the field.

Hines is completely off the mark, the problem is the NFL is a game of violence where stars get hurt. They need Brady, Brees, Hines, Polamalu, and Manning on the field to make money.

So the NFL is trying to balance the violence and safety for profit. Its just good business
 
LKN H20Girl said:
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/01/...layers/?icid=nfl|pos1|hines-ward-hypocritical

Wow - I'm wondering if he gets fined for speaking out. He speaks the truth but the NFL doesn't like for players to speak out against it.
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I don't think he speaks the truth... I think that's the perspective of someone who has NO PERSPECTIVE.... The league does what it has to do to make money but also understands the importance of keeping a good image...

Guys like Hines Ward thinks they should be able to do what they want to and think they know how to run a multi billion dollar business..

The beer commercials is what allows guys like Hines to make millions and those beer venders pay big money in part to the image that the Football creates...

Make all the arguments you want but the NFL is the most popular sport and is ran better then all the other leagues... Hines' complaints are shallow and self serving... Well run business have rules and those rules some times restrict employees. BUT the structure the business creates allows those guys to make millions instead of playing for another pro football league that he would make $75,000 a year.

Love how these guys complain but they don't go to canada or overseas or that new football league in the states to play, they stay right there and complain about the rules of the organization that pays them millions...
 
I'm calling BS and Hines is a whiner... he almost ended Rivers career... he's cheap.

The NFL has begun to look closer at long-term head injuries. Congress has asked, the union has asked and retired players AND their doctors have asked that something be done to avoid brain injuries to NFL players. Those injuries have consequences long after a player leaves the league. There is also the aspect of who should pay for the long-term care of these players who become afflicted with life-altering injuries as a result of football-driven head trauma?

The Steelers are trying to draw a line in the sand. I thik that there position is untenable. They play rough to the point of dirty. Good clean hits are one thing but to purposely try to injure a guy is another.

I thought that McCray's hit on Warner was excessive. But it was clean-- no head to head-- but the guy reminded me of a helpless receiver. There for a few I was afraid for him. He looked dead. So I admit a bias. But I like a good solid hit like anyone else but more than anything I want don't want to see a player killed on the field of play.

I think Hines is dumb.
 
The hit stuff is a red herring. If the NFL really cared about players they'd get pensions, disability and long term health-care vesting sorted out. Those after playing issues are the real quality of life difference makers for NFL players, especially since it's difficult for young athletes to envision how much of a toll the game will take on them.
 
bradman1965 said:
The hit stuff is a red herring. If the NFL really cared about players they'd get pensions, disability and long term health-care vesting sorted out. Those after playing issues are the real quality of life difference makers for NFL players, especially since it's difficult for young athletes to envision how much of a toll the game will take on them.
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I believe this is the first step towards that. The new CBA will prolly have a great deal more money devoted to former players and future retirerees.
 
Guitarzan said:
I'm calling BS and Hines is a whiner... he almost ended Rivers career... he's cheap.

The NFL has begun to look closer at long-term head injuries. Congress has asked, the union has asked and retired players AND their doctors have asked that something be done to avoid brain injuries to NFL players. Those injuries have consequences long after a player leaves the league. There is also the aspect of who should pay for the long-term care of these players who become afflicted with life-altering injuries as a result of football-driven head trauma?

The Steelers are trying to draw a line in the sand. I thik that there position is untenable. They play rough to the point of dirty. Good clean hits are one thing but to purposely try to injure a guy is another.

I thought that McCray's hit on Warner was excessive. But it was clean-- no head to head-- but the guy reminded me of a helpless receiver. There for a few I was afraid for him. He looked dead. So I admit a bias. But I like a good solid hit like anyone else but more than anything I want don't want to see a player killed on the fiemany ld of play.

I think Hines is dumb.
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I don't agree with the NFL's stance on injuries....if they really care as they try to make it look they are, they would outlaw all the hits in the sport!.....period!

The hits are the 99% cause of all the injuries, no one can deny that! Legal, or illegal hits can, and do send players into early retirement, and in time those hits, legal, or illegal, have a devastating effect on the body, and head of these ex-players.

But if the players can't hit anymore, would that be harmful to the sport?....of course it would! The hits are the spices of the sport, without them, people won't attend the games, and it would quickly become the "boring league"....so hits will not be outlawed anytime soon.

But all the legal hits do just about that much damage on the head as illegal hits do....its just the matter of the position of the head.... a player by ducking his head, puts his head in harm's way, cause the defender, who aimed at the body, suddenly gets the head in the way of the hit, and it is impossible for the defender to stop at that point....the result is an illegal hit to the head....and players are penalized for it. Or here's another one I've seen many times...a defender hits another player legally at the body, and as the player falls to the ground, his head hits the turf causing a concussion.....a few of those will end the career of some players much too early. And those hits in time will and do have devastating effects on the head.....stopping them will ultimately will have to forbid hitting in all forms, if the league is serious about players safety.
 
birdog said:
I don't agree with the NFL's stance on injuries....if they really care as they try to make it look they are, they would outlaw all the hits in the sport!.....period!

The hits are the 99% cause of all the injuries, no one can deny that! Legal, or illegal hits can, and do send players into early retirement, and in time those hits, legal, or illegal, have a devastating effect on the body, and head of these ex-players.

But if the players can't hit anymore, would that be harmful to the sport?....of course it would! The hits are the spices of the sport, without them, people won't attend the games, and it would quickly become the "boring league"....so hits will not be outlawed anytime soon.

But all the legal hits do just about that much damage on the head as illegal hits do....its just the matter of the position of the head.... a player by ducking his head, puts his head in harm's way, cause the defender, who aimed at the body, suddenly gets the head in the way of the hit, and it is impossible for the defender to stop at that point....the result is an illegal hit to the head....and players are penalized for it. Or here's another one I've seen many times...a defender hits another player legally at the body, and as the player falls to the ground, his head hits the turf causing a concussion.....a few of those will end the career of some players much too early. And those hits in time will and do have devastating effects on the head.....stopping them will ultimately will have to forbid hitting in all forms, if the league is serious about players safety.
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Well I agree that it appears extemely daunting to attempt to control the violent nature of the game while striking a good balance between safety and excitement. But the visage of hopelessness is no excuse for inaction. It must begin somewhere. It's surely going to involve trial and error but it must begin. Steps are being taken to do what can be done and I'm certain that if one looks long enough what he seeks appears. Better yet, sometimes while searching for one thing you stumble upon something that-- even though it's not what you were looking for-- is better than what you first sought.

I agree with the League's action. I think that the most exciting aspect of the game is a break away play. One where the player gets open field and runs it all the way in for TD. That play-- many times-- has no contact. So to think that the only exciting thing about a game is to see someone knocked silly, to me, doesn't encompass all that's exciting about a game. There is plenty of excitement in a game on plays that don't involve the most violent of hits.
 

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