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All NFL teams are supposed to file injury reports. Out means out. Doubtful means 75% the player will not play. Questionable means its 50/50. Probable means just that, barring some setback the player will play.
So what is the purpose of making teams file these reports? Which teams use these reports strategically to over report and under report injuries? Is there some real advantage to be gained either way? Have you ever heard of a team getting penalized for falsely reporting?
Before answering lets look at a couple extreme reports from this week. it is a very violent game and you would think by week 11 most teams wouyld be beat up pretty good. Take a look at the Giants/Jags game. its like half of each teasm players are hurt.
NEW YORK GIANTS AT JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - Giants: OUT: DE Michael Strahan (Foot); T Luke Petitgout (Fibula); DE Justin Tuck (Foot). DOUBTFUL: DE Osi Umenyiora (Hip Flexor); CB Sam Madison (Hamstring). QUESTIONABLE: LB Brandon Short (Quadricep); WR Sinorice Moss (Quadricep); LB Carlos Emmons (Groin). Jaguars: QUESTIONABLE: T Stockar McDougle (Ankle); DT Marcus Stroud (Ankle); S Donovin Darius (Knee); P Chris Hanson (Hamstring); QB Byron Leftwich (Ankle); LB Jorge Cordova (Hamstring). PROBABLE: CB Terry Cousin (Groin); DE Bobby McCray (Shoulder); CB Rashean Mathis (Hamstring); LB Daryl Smith (Biceps); LB Clint Ingram (Shoulder); LB Brian Iwuh (Shin); RB Derrick Wimbush (Ankle); TE George Wrighster (Back); DT John Henderson (Hamstring); CB Brian Williams (Foot); DE Marcellus Wiley (Groin); RB Fred Taylor (Groin); S Gerald Sensabaugh (Shoulder); CB Dee Webb (Shoulder); S Nick Sorensen (Head); WR Ernest Wilford (Thigh); T Wayne Hunter (Wrist).
Look at the probable list for the Jags. If a guy has hurt feelings he gets on the list. It would seem the Jaguar staff is fairly liberal in determiong who is hurt. Now the other extreme. Check out the rams/panthers injury report.
ST. LOUIS RAMS AT CAROLINA PANTHERS - Rams: PROBABLE: LB Raonall Smith (Jaw). Panthers: OUT: DT Jordan Carstens (Illness). DOUBTFUL: C Justin Hartwig (Groin). PROBABLE: CB Ken Lucas (Thigh).
Are you kidding me? The rams have one player hurt and he is probable? I am questionable after a round of golf with either my elbow, back or neck. How are the rams not as nicked up as the rest of the league? Haslett's guys not hitting?
Now lets take a shot at the questions.
So what is the purpose of making teams file these reports? I think it has all to do with Vegas and the lines. The NFL will never admit this, but a huge part of the NFLs popularity is its appeal to gamblers. Injury information is critical. The saints might be favored this week but what if you knew Brees had a sore thumb and would not play? To keep the playing field level for Vegas the teams are required to submit reports. I can not prove it, I just know it.
Which teams use these reports strategically to over report and under report injuries? Based on this week it would seem the Rams under report and the Jags over report. I cannot see how a team in week 11 can have only one guy hurting. The Jags, on the other hand, would report a guy with a heat rash as injured.
Is there some real advantage to be gained either way? I dont think so but evidently some teams do. I guess you under report so the team wont go after your guys injury. I think the Ravens may have gone after Bush's tender ankle a bit. I suppose you over report to keep them guessing on who will play. You would have a different game plan to play Michael Vick than to play his back up so I suppose some advantage could be had there in keeping them guessing.
Have you ever heard of a team getting penalized for falsely reporting? I have not. Has anyone heard of a team getting penalized for this? I think its pretty clear teams abuse this system.
So what is the purpose of making teams file these reports? Which teams use these reports strategically to over report and under report injuries? Is there some real advantage to be gained either way? Have you ever heard of a team getting penalized for falsely reporting?
Before answering lets look at a couple extreme reports from this week. it is a very violent game and you would think by week 11 most teams wouyld be beat up pretty good. Take a look at the Giants/Jags game. its like half of each teasm players are hurt.
NEW YORK GIANTS AT JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - Giants: OUT: DE Michael Strahan (Foot); T Luke Petitgout (Fibula); DE Justin Tuck (Foot). DOUBTFUL: DE Osi Umenyiora (Hip Flexor); CB Sam Madison (Hamstring). QUESTIONABLE: LB Brandon Short (Quadricep); WR Sinorice Moss (Quadricep); LB Carlos Emmons (Groin). Jaguars: QUESTIONABLE: T Stockar McDougle (Ankle); DT Marcus Stroud (Ankle); S Donovin Darius (Knee); P Chris Hanson (Hamstring); QB Byron Leftwich (Ankle); LB Jorge Cordova (Hamstring). PROBABLE: CB Terry Cousin (Groin); DE Bobby McCray (Shoulder); CB Rashean Mathis (Hamstring); LB Daryl Smith (Biceps); LB Clint Ingram (Shoulder); LB Brian Iwuh (Shin); RB Derrick Wimbush (Ankle); TE George Wrighster (Back); DT John Henderson (Hamstring); CB Brian Williams (Foot); DE Marcellus Wiley (Groin); RB Fred Taylor (Groin); S Gerald Sensabaugh (Shoulder); CB Dee Webb (Shoulder); S Nick Sorensen (Head); WR Ernest Wilford (Thigh); T Wayne Hunter (Wrist).
Look at the probable list for the Jags. If a guy has hurt feelings he gets on the list. It would seem the Jaguar staff is fairly liberal in determiong who is hurt. Now the other extreme. Check out the rams/panthers injury report.
ST. LOUIS RAMS AT CAROLINA PANTHERS - Rams: PROBABLE: LB Raonall Smith (Jaw). Panthers: OUT: DT Jordan Carstens (Illness). DOUBTFUL: C Justin Hartwig (Groin). PROBABLE: CB Ken Lucas (Thigh).
Are you kidding me? The rams have one player hurt and he is probable? I am questionable after a round of golf with either my elbow, back or neck. How are the rams not as nicked up as the rest of the league? Haslett's guys not hitting?
Now lets take a shot at the questions.
So what is the purpose of making teams file these reports? I think it has all to do with Vegas and the lines. The NFL will never admit this, but a huge part of the NFLs popularity is its appeal to gamblers. Injury information is critical. The saints might be favored this week but what if you knew Brees had a sore thumb and would not play? To keep the playing field level for Vegas the teams are required to submit reports. I can not prove it, I just know it.
Which teams use these reports strategically to over report and under report injuries? Based on this week it would seem the Rams under report and the Jags over report. I cannot see how a team in week 11 can have only one guy hurting. The Jags, on the other hand, would report a guy with a heat rash as injured.
Is there some real advantage to be gained either way? I dont think so but evidently some teams do. I guess you under report so the team wont go after your guys injury. I think the Ravens may have gone after Bush's tender ankle a bit. I suppose you over report to keep them guessing on who will play. You would have a different game plan to play Michael Vick than to play his back up so I suppose some advantage could be had there in keeping them guessing.
Have you ever heard of a team getting penalized for falsely reporting? I have not. Has anyone heard of a team getting penalized for this? I think its pretty clear teams abuse this system.