Marijuana (2 Viewers)

Should marijuana be legal?

  • Yes, it should be legal and taxed

    Votes: 683 87.7%
  • Yes, but only medically

    Votes: 27 3.5%
  • No, but the marijuana laws should be relaxed

    Votes: 24 3.1%
  • No, it should remain illegal.

    Votes: 45 5.8%

  • Total voters
    779
How are employers responding to the legalization? Can you still get fired in Canada for have weed in your system?
 
How are employers responding to the legalization? Can you still get fired in Canada for have weed in your system?
I would think they would follow the same guidelines for alcohol use. You can't be under the influence of alcohol while you are at work so same should apply for weed. The entire country has legalized weed. Your employer can't restrict you from using a legal product on your own time. Here in the US it's different. Even though there are several states that have legalized it, employees of nationwide companies still have follow the rules of the company. Fedex is a worldwide company but Fedex employees in Colorado still can be fired for using weed. Once the entire country makes it legal then those rules will change.
 
I would think they would follow the same guidelines for alcohol use. You can't be under the influence of alcohol while you are at work so same should apply for weed. The entire country has legalized weed. Your employer can't restrict you from using a legal product on your own time. Here in the US it's different. Even though there are several states that have legalized it, employees of nationwide companies still have follow the rules of the company. Fedex is a worldwide company but Fedex employees in Colorado still can be fired for using weed. Once the entire country makes it legal then those rules will change.
An employer can't restrict you from using a legal product on your own time, but they can fire you for it. I imagine Canadian employers will retain their ability to administer drug tests and fire employees for certain positive results, including marijuana. Maybe some companies will change their drug policies, but I'm sure some won't.
 
All certainly true that legalized recreational use doesn't mean employers cannot prohibit weed use or weed intoxication on work time. The problem with marijuana, however, is that the industry standard test isn't effective at pinpointing the time of use within a matter of hours (like a breathalyzer can do for alcohol, for example) - the THC remains in the system for a period of weeks, not hours, and that's all the (current) tests are capable of. And this isn't a new problem, the long window in which marijuana can give a positive test result (compared to the relatively short period of actual intoxication) has been complicating criminal matters for a long time. I'm not sure about the state of development of better testing methods, but I don't know of any in widespread use.

So an employee that uses marijuana strictly on his own time could still "fail" a drug test as far as the employer is concerned. In other words, if the employee will test positive on Thursday for legally smoking weed at his residence the previous weekend, and the employee's marijuana intoxication had no bearing on his work-time or work duties whatsoever, I think the employer is still justified in firing the employee. I think employers can still rely on whatever the industry-standard test is and the degree to which it is accurate - and if the test is positive, the employer can act on that. Given that this isn't a new problem, I suspect that most company drug policies indicate that the employer is entitled to rely on the test results and a positive test result will be considered violation of company policy regardless of whether the employee believes that the drug consumption was not on work hours. And I think until more precise testing is available, the law/courts are going to have hard time saying that it is wrongful termination for the company to rely on an industry-standard drug test.

So for many people, they should hesitate to participate in legalized recreational weed if they are subject to drug testing. It's just too much risk based on the fact that weed tests aren't precise about time of use.
 
as of this coming Wednesday in Ontario:

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how hard is the migration into canada, with an australian citizenship under the “queen as well?

started as a joke question, but thinking about it, i am being honest. i mean i have a us citizenship, and i know that can be backed up, but what about “statute of winchestor” or whatever with a citizen from one of the countries?
 


Hound Labs says its device can accurately detect whether a person has smoked pot in the last two hours, a window many consider the peak impairment time frame. "When you find THC in breath, you can be pretty darn sure that somebody smoked pot in the last couple of hours," Lynn says. "And we don't want to have people driving during that time period or, frankly, at a work site in a construction zone."

This is about the best I've heard of for testing. I'm guessing though that it would still be difficult for companies. Unless maybe they spot check or have a policy for accidents etc.
 
not asking for the “mailing” and just curious, seriously looking for a possible place to move (difficult picking usa cities, and i don’t want to go back to oz, my dogs especially 6 months of quarantine). i have always wanted to visit.
 
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