NFL Has any QB surpassed this Aaron Brooks stat (rushing & passing)? (1 Viewer)

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The Moose said:
If I was being a dick I would have said the rushing game he stunk to high heaven also.

Started ungodly slow took 5 sacks and completed less than 50% of his passes.

The d played lights out three turnovers and kept giving them a short field to work with.

Was not at that one because it was on the road. I remember that year well cuz I had talk my dad into getting tickets again. He would not budge after the ditka crap so me and my brother paid for them.
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Yeah, but scrambling for 11 yards on 4th and 10 was money. And he knew he could make it, and it got us a home game in the playoffs ahead of, and against, the defending Super Bowl champs, and he led us to our first playoff win. We were dead in the water that year when Blake and Griffin went down and he carried us. The haters don't like it, and it never ended the way we wanted, but you can't ever take 2000 away from any of us, and that includes AB.
 
Groovepro said:
Good ole' AB. He was athletic and the king of the "broken play". Blake was really learning the offense and getting better into the reads and especially his "touch" on underneath routes, over LB's in 2nd tier and timing routes. (He was previously more one dimensional with one ball velocity, hard. He oddly had a beautiful deep ball though.) After injured, AB teamed up with Willie Jackson for 1000 yds on mostly broken plays. Our road to the playoffs was built on riding Deuce to an early grave (3rd and long with draw plays up the middle he WOULD convert...lol), Horn getting smashed jumping for badly thrown balls in middle of the field on 3rd downs (while running proper routes) and AB and WJ playing streetball, as well as a non sexy but stout defense, especially the line. As McCarthy believed his own hype and thought his scheme was most amazing, ground breaking offense ever created, he preached lack of execution for times of lack of production. He never schemed for strength/weakness of his personnel. McCarthy let AB streetball and use his athleticism, then tried to make him a pocket passer, playing against his strengths. He eventually added more verbiage and tried to instill the 2 TE/NO FB offense that was canned late in the season and stifled even more progress for the entire offense. He finally had to "dumb down" the calls and verbiage since AB was having trouble just getting the play CALLED in the huddle and the team was having trouble even knowing the plays.

AB was never my fave QB but have some good games and highlights from that time. I blame McCarthy, overrated coach and coordinator, for not assisting in AB's growth as a QB. Willie Jackson was a 1000 yd WR with playoff experience and was a bug on the windshield after the Saints...there is a reason. Streetball stats.

If the offense was molded around strong run game and keeping the game manageable within his skill and mental ranges, he could have gained confidence and we might have achieved legit offensive consistency and productivity...not players achieving in SPITE of McCarthy's playcalling. That could have a special offense. Brooks was psychologically beat from McCarthy's tenure as OC. (One man's opinion who watched and studied all of those games and longtime football player/coach with semi-pro experience).
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I'm....not gonna argue with this. Interesting take.

I'm also just gonna look forward to Sunday. Plenty of time for Milne memories in March!
 
gavinj said:
Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
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Nope he was bad.

Never developed a game. After the first year of film on him he never had success again because he could not change. Sandlot play will only get you so far.

Perfect example is Russell Wilson.

First couple years in the league was completely sandlot and defense. Now his game has grown can do it all does not need the play to break down to be successful.

I am glad he holds a record.

Don't think it is just here I got to meet Brooks once I told him what I thought to his face.
 
The Moose said:
Nope he was bad.

Never developed a game. After the first year of film on him he never had success again because he could not change. Sandlot play will only get you so far.

Perfect example is Russell Wilson.

First couple years in the league was completely sandlot and defense. Now his game has grown can do it all does not need the play to break down to be successful.

I am glad he holds a record.

Don't think it is just here I got to meet Brooks once I told him what I thought to his face.
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You are an embarassment
 
SaintJ said:
Yeah, but scrambling for 11 yards on 4th and 10 was money. And he knew he could make it, and it got us a home game in the playoffs ahead of, and against, the defending Super Bowl champs, and he led us to our first playoff win. We were dead in the water that year when Blake and Griffin went down and he carried us. The haters don't like it, and it never ended the way we wanted, but you can't ever take 2000 away from any of us, and that includes AB.
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Yeah you were watching another game.

I tend to remember the 5 turnovers.

Sammy Knight had two pics. Somebody else had another and two fumbles. That is not counting the muffed punt cuz they are not fumbles.

I remember faulk being stonewalled that game with like less than 30yards.

I remember the the saints starting slow as molasses that game as always with Brooks as qb
 
The Moose said:
Yeah you were watching another game.

I tend to remember the 5 turnovers.

Sammy Knight had two pics. Somebody else had another and two fumbles. That is not counting the muffed punt cuz they are not fumbles.

I remember faulk being stonewalled that game with like less than 30yards.

I remember the the saints starting slow as molasses that game as always with Brooks as qb
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Your memory needs to improve.

www.pro-football-reference.com

Wild Card - St. Louis Rams at New Orleans Saints - December 30th, 2000 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

St. Louis Rams 28 at New Orleans Saints 31 on December 30th, 2000 - Full team and player stats and box score
www.pro-football-reference.com www.pro-football-reference.com

On a day we didn't have it going, when Terry Allen rushed for 21 yards on 16 carries and we lost Joe Horn in the first quarter, Brooks put up a 111.5 passer rating while running for his life and throwing to a bunch of journeymen, and quite successfully -- two sacks, but 10 carries for 26 yards -- he was flushed a lot but continued to make plays.

The defending Super Bowl champs came in angry as hell and bent on revenge, and he threw four TD passes to a bunch of nobodies with no help on offense. Yes, the D did a great job on Faulk in the running game (although he had 99 yards receiving), and our DL got pressure on the vastly overrated Kurt Warner and forced some picks, but Brooks carried us that day, and I'm sorry that bothers you. All I can really remember about that game was crying tears of joy and thinking about the folks who were no longer around to enjoy it with us after all that losing.

But you keep on keeping on with whatever else you got going on there.
 
ndcc said:
A.B. Was the first QB in NFL history to have 400+ yds passing (in a game) AND 100+ yds rushing (in a game)... in the SAME season.

Thinking of:

Steve Young
Michael Vick
Patrick Mahomes
Deshaun Watson
Lamar Jackson
... and others

Wondering: How many others have done it?

Sidebar: A.B. was one of the BEST at play action and misdirection fakes; he knew how to sell it!



:gosaints:
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Aaron truly was talented. It's just unfortunate that the Saints didn't have the staff that could best hone his talents. I think towards the end of his career he lost confidence in himself.
 
The Moose said:
Nope as a supporter of the saints by being a season ticket holder all of the six years of his stay here I paid for my right to voice my opinion to him with my hard earned cash.

Do you buy tickets?
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Yep I sure do but buying tickets doesn't make YOU an expert. Now what level of football did you play that makes you think you're qualified to tell Mr. Brooks about your football expertise to his face big man?
 
SaintJ said:
Your memory needs to improve.

www.pro-football-reference.com

Wild Card - St. Louis Rams at New Orleans Saints - December 30th, 2000 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

St. Louis Rams 28 at New Orleans Saints 31 on December 30th, 2000 - Full team and player stats and box score
www.pro-football-reference.com www.pro-football-reference.com

On a day we didn't have it going, when Terry Allen rushed for 21 yards on 16 carries and we lost Joe Horn in the first quarter, Brooks put up a 111.5 passer rating while running for his life and throwing to a bunch of journeymen, and quite successfully -- two sacks, but 10 carries for 26 yards -- he was flushed a lot but continued to make plays.

The defending Super Bowl champs came in angry as hell and bent on revenge, and he threw four TD passes to a bunch of nobodies with no help on offense. Yes, the D did a great job on Faulk in the running game (although he had 99 yards receiving), and our DL got pressure on the vastly overrated Kurt Warner and forced some picks, but Brooks carried us that day, and I'm sorry that bothers you. All I can really remember about that game was crying tears of joy and thinking about the folks who were no longer around to enjoy it with us after all that losing.

But you keep on keeping on with whatever else you got going on there.
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Thanks bro!

Was going from memory.

Yep two of the td drives were less than 50 yards. One was 15. The other was 45.

Look at the last three drives Jesus that is 6 yards total!

Yep thanks for posting that
 

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