NFL Draft Joe Burrow (1 Viewer)

Sorry to say that he will be going from being a tiger to being a tiger. (Bengals)

I wouldn’t be too sure. I could see Mike Brown taking Chase Young and waiting til pick 33 to take a QB.
 
HEY!


Lsu guys just enjoy it!

Let's not hear about all the we gotta get this or that. If you as an lsu get what you want the saints can't get him!

How about just enjoy that lsu has a non prehistorical offense and has already won your Superbowl and beat bama.

How about just enjoy the playoffs?

The kid might be great at the next level he might suck I don't care.

I am glad I don't have to watch horrible lsu offense anymore.
 
I am glad I don't have to watch horrible lsu offense anymore.


The funny thing to me is that, even with the overlap of a fan base, too many fans still equate running the ball with winning. While a efficient running game is a good thing in terms of keeping a defense off balance, a quality passing game is the key to winning a championship. From two years ago, the LSU offense has seen rushing attempts decline by 154, (552 in both 2017 and 2018 and 398 in 2019) and seen passing attempts increase by 51 over last year and 138 from 2017. And finally the record reflects the talent level of the program.
 
I really like Joe Burrow...he looks like he has all of the tools to potentially be a successful NFL QB. But he's not Peyton Manning. He's not someone who I have the utmost confidence that he is a lock to be successful at the next level. His sample size is relatively limited. We don't know how he is going to go through progressions and read defenses at the next level. I suspect that he'll be fine, but it's always tough to know for sure. And if you are going to trade away 3 drafts worth of picks (and yes, the bounty would probably be the biggest in NFL history), then you have to be 100% sure that he's going to be a transcendent talent that can singlehandedly win games for you, because that is what he will have to do with the significant loss of draft capital.

I'm not interested in Fromm or Herbert. I think that they both flop in the NFL and I'm not even considering them before the 2nd-3rd round. I honestly don't know much about Eason, I'll have to take a good look at him. I'm not sure what to think about Hurts yet.

I do know that Tua is a good QB. Truth be told, if he was the current LSU QB, everyone on this forum would want him right now...even in spite of the injury concerns. He is a fantastic young QB that is pinpoint accurate, makes smarts decisions, and throws a beautiful deep ball. I think that he is right up there with Burrow. And though he has injury concerns, those injury concerns are the ONLY reason that the Saints may be in a position to get him. Otherwise, I think he likely goes #1 overall. If he slips outside of the top 10, all of a sudden the Saints could have the ammunition to get their franchise QB without completely crippling their future draft assets.
 
Again it's not about what Belichick "wants" it's about the "smart" thing to do.

All those SB rings say they are 1 and the same. There is not a smarter, wiser coach in the NFL, nor a better one to emulate.

Back when Brady was drafted, there was no one to compare him to. Now we know what a Tom Brady looks like, and the closest thing to him this year is Burrow. No one will pass on him.
 
I really like Joe Burrow...he looks like he has all of the tools to potentially be a successful NFL QB. But he's not Peyton Manning. He's not someone who I have the utmost confidence that he is a lock to be successful at the next level. His sample size is relatively limited. We don't know how he is going to go through progressions and read defenses at the next level. I suspect that he'll be fine, but it's always tough to know for sure. And if you are going to trade away 3 drafts worth of picks (and yes, the bounty would probably be the biggest in NFL history), then you have to be 100% sure that he's going to be a transcendent talent that can singlehandedly win games for you, because that is what he will have to do with the significant loss of draft capital.

I'm not interested in Fromm or Herbert. I think that they both flop in the NFL and I'm not even considering them before the 2nd-3rd round. I honestly don't know much about Eason, I'll have to take a good look at him. I'm not sure what to think about Hurts yet.

I do know that Tua is a good QB. Truth be told, if he was the current LSU QB, everyone on this forum would want him right now...even in spite of the injury concerns. He is a fantastic young QB that is pinpoint accurate, makes smarts decisions, and throws a beautiful deep ball. I think that he is right up there with Burrow. And though he has injury concerns, those injury concerns are the ONLY reason that the Saints may be in a position to get him. Otherwise, I think he likely goes #1 overall. If he slips outside of the top 10, all of a sudden the Saints could have the ammunition to get their franchise QB without completely crippling their future draft assets.

Totally agree, except to say Burrow is more gritty than Manning and Tua. He's Brady tough and gritty, not afraid to take a hit in exchange for a completed pass. He's smart, uses touch, not ashamed to throw an easy, catchable ball when required, eyes always downfield, has great judgment, the game is not too big for him, can't be intimidated.

I like Tua a lot, but I dread the "too short, too immobile" drone coming from the sports media. If his injury is good, I think he's worth taking a late first - early 2nd on if you're willing to gamble on his health. I don't know if he can fit passes in NFL-tight windows, only seen him play 4-5 times. I would say "probably yes".

EDIT: Don't say "everyone". Burrow is the first LSU QB I have ever wanted, and Tua is the first ALA QB I have ever wanted. I'm sure there are plenty of New Orleans Saints fans that feel the same way.
 
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Totally agree, except to say Burrow is more gritty than Manning and Tua. He's Brady tough and gritty, not afraid to take a hit in exchange for a completed pass. He's smart, uses touch, not ashamed to throw an easy, catchable ball when required, eyes always downfield, has great judgment, the game is not too big for him, can't be intimidated.

I like Tua a lot, but I dread the "too short, too immobile" drone coming from the sports media. If his injury is good, I think he's worth taking a late first - early 2nd on if you're willing to gamble on his health. I don't know if he can fit passes in NFL-tight windows, only see him play 4-5 times. I would say "probably yes".

I really like Burrow. He does remind me of Brady in his posture and release. Of course it’s tough to compare any college player to an NFL legend, just like it is likely pointless to try to find the collegiate version of Drew Brees.

I don’t have any concern about Tuas size or immobility. I think that he had good mobility. Clearly, he’s not Vick/Jackson but he reminds me a little of Aaron Rodgers in his ability to get out of the pocket and throw the ball downfield with accuracy. He has superb accuracy, a good arm, makes good decisions, has A+ character and work ethic, and can literally make every throw. Payton would love him. My only concern is his injuries...and it’s a real concern. ButI’d rather take the chance on injuries than risk on questionable talent. The talent is unquestionable here.
 
You missed my edit.

I agree on Tua's arm talent.

I need to catch up on other QB's. There has to be a good one that won't destroy our draft this year and next.

I need to take a closer look at Love, Eason, and Hurts.
 
If there was a create-a-player for SP's offense it's Burrow and that is factoring in physical talent, football IQ, reaction/decision making speed, coaching, leadership, confidence and grit. And before comments rain in about his arm strength, if there is anything we have learned over the last 14 years is that you don't have to have the strongest arm, you have to know the offense and be accurate.

There is a piece of trade value that everyone seems to forget and that is Teddy. Everyone just assumes we would just let him walk in FA. He's a 27 y/o experienced QB who has earned a starting job in the right situation. The FO can franchise tag him and trade him to a team that needs a starter who might not want to go with a rookie. Colts, Panthers, Chargers, Bucs, Dolphins, Bengals and Bears all come to mind as they either don't have a QB or there are questions surrounding if their current QB is their QB of the future. The Bears gave 2 1sts+ for Mack who disappears in games, would those picks have been better used on a consistent QB?

On the surface it may seem that we don't have what it will take to move up and grab Burrow at #1, but it is not impossible and it may take more than one trade to do it. Some options are trading into the middle of the 1st which a franchise tagged TB would easily have that value. So we could accumulate draft capital and them move up.

Another option is do the Bengals really want to go with a rookie? They have WRs, TEs, RBs and their defense has talent. They lack a QB and offensive line help. TB, 2020 1st and 2021 1st would be enough to move move up to #1. In that scenario, we really only give up the 2021 1st.

If there was ever a Saints team that could withstand trading draft capital to get the QB of the future, it is this current team due to how successful the FO has had over recent years in the draft and UDFA finds.
I dont care what the Panthers are offering, I wouldn't help make their team better.
 
fwiw, I have a client in Cincinnati who is a diehard Bengals fan and he told me there’s no chance the Bengals pass on Chase Young.
 
I dont care what the Panthers are offering, I wouldn't help make their team better.

Yeah, that was only an example. There are a few teams I wouldn't make better and the Panthers are one of them along with the Bucs and Falcons. That was more of a list of teams who have uncertainty surrounding their QB. With the amount of money Carolina can save by releasing Cam, I'm pretty sure he's gone.
 
I didn't know that you had to be born in Louisia

Of course you don't have to be, although a lot of great football players are. ;)
My point was more that Joe Burrow is Ohio's native son, so he won't be sad playing for the Bengals making millions. It's actually a compelling storyline if he can go there and resurrect their franchise.
 

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