Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence. (1 Viewer)

You are aware that Lawrence put the offense on his shoulders and won the national championship last year, right?

As of this moment in time, Burrow is better. But we are talking about a 3 year gap in age. Lawrence in regards to physical tools is just bonkers. He’s bigger, faster, and has a better arm than Burrow. He’s also been an elite QB for both of his college seasons, including winning 3 of four playoff games, all of which Clemson was an underdog. He’s an insane prospect, the physical tools to be right there with Patrick Mahomes.

The question is whether or not he can develop his game to reach the current level of Joe Burrow at age 23. And I can think of a reason why he couldn’t. Again, he may be the greatest Sophomore QB in college football history. At age 20, Joe Burrow wasn’t even a legit NFL prospect. Lawrence can close the gap in short order.
I agree. Lawrence is an absolute stud of a prospect. With the right coaching at the next level, his ceiling is scary high.
 
Both QB’s are amazing physically. Joe’s a 5th year senior where Lawrence is a true sophomore. IMO age, maturity, and experience gave Burrow the edge this year. Lawrence will only get better and will be a great NFL QB just like Burrow.


I think Lawrence is going to be good probably Great. I think Lawrence will be a good to great NFL QB. Well he is a great college QB now.


Just watching them. Looking at them throw, fo drop backs, scan the field. Both QB did this.

Joe looked like Drew, Brady, Rogers. If he put on an NFL uniform and watched him do those things it would not look out of place. Lawrence would.

I am no football expert so I can’t poor my finger on it. When you watch college QB’s play they look different in their movements, not fluid, i can’t quite say what it is, but they look different than the NFL greats we think of. Maybe it’s the system with the RPO, but LSU does some of that ( as the season went along they did less).

Anyone else see a difference from Saturday QB’s in that way? Or doI just plain need a better pair of glasses
 
I agree. Lawrence is an absolute stud of a prospect. With the right coaching at the next level, his ceiling is scary high.

Yep, Burrow has the higher floor but Lawrence has the higher ceiling...though I must say, if Lawrence puts in another elite season next year he’ll probably have a higher floor than any QB in recent memory. People talk up Luck, and Luck was an excellent prospect, but he didn’t have Lawrence‘a arm.
 
Lawrence is the prototype NFL QB as far as size and arm strength. He’s also a very good runner.

He also overthrows way, way too many passes.

Give me Burrow.
 
Yep, Burrow has the higher floor but Lawrence has the higher ceiling...

That’s probably the best way to put it.

They’re also both great leaders. But I feel like Burrow has the psycho competitiveness and rare ability to also be calm and let the game slow down in the big moments.
 
I think Burrow is the first quarterback I see who is making complicated NFL throws with ease. He was accurate with his throws even in tight coverage. And yes right now the edge is Burrow. But with Lawrence, he has time. He brought them to 2 national championship game. He has a stronger arm and looks stronger and faster. So I have to see how Lawrence progress next season. This debate will continue for me for a while.

Well this is true. Kirk said last night they use the Saints passing game. They use the same routes, progressions, match up based reads and alignments. He said that has never been done before in college as it pertains to the whole passing game. Plays from the NFL sure, Complete play book, no.

When they gave Joe the new playbook, he said Joe looked at it and was through page 14 and not one play was like anything from last year. He also said the reason coaches don’t do that is because it’s too complex.

This is my opinion only.
I think Joe was able to unleash an NFL passing Game on college defenses for three reasons. First, He is much smarter than most. He is very intelligent. Second, since he already graduated, he was able to do NFL caliber preparation. He could live, eat and sleep with that playbook. Finally, the most underrated part, Brady brought over Payton’s passing game concepts. Whatever anyone else thinks of Payton, he created the most innovative and flexible passing game the NFL has seen since Bill Walsh introduced the West Coast Offense. Since 2006 no team has had the consistent year to year production from the passing game the saints have had. Truth be told it’s not even close even if you look at the Patriots. Again, passing game only.
 
I've seen two playoff games of Lawrence and I don't get the hype or why this is even a question. Yeah he has another year to develop but he's been a 60% passer over the years and the two games I've seen him it looked worse with lack of touch and consistency. He's not an NFL runner either.
 
That’s probably the best way to put it.

They’re also both great leaders. But I feel like Burrow has the psycho competitiveness and rare ability to also be calm and let the game slow down in the big moments.

What you just said is IT.

The reason one person is Jeff George, and one is Drew Brees the best to ever play.

Not saying Trevor will be George, I think he could be good to great. As of today, he is not as good. He is just not
 
I've seen two playoff games of Lawrence and I don't get the hype or why this is even a question.

Me either.

Trevor looked washed up. He could not hit receivers and under threw several balls. He just does not have it anymore. When you loose it you can’t get it back.

Best thing for Clemson is to move on. Sure the guy won them a championship, but his time has passed. Time for new blood
 
I would take Burrow. His accuracy and feel for the game are unreal. The only thing Lawrence is better at is arm strength, but his accuracy and accuracy under pressure is shaky shaky at times. I was more impressed with Clemson's defense than Lawrence's play. And it's tough to predict whether someone can develop accuracy (both in the pocket and on the run). Burrow has Brees level qualities, if he gets paired with a great coach he'll be a great player in the NFL imo. At this point Lawrence is a question mark to me; he has the physical talent, but not the intangibles (the thing he has going is he is still young and has time to learn).
 
Me either.

Trevor looked washed up. He could not hit receivers and under threw several balls. He just does not have it anymore. When you loose it you can’t get it back.

Best thing for Clemson is to move on. Sure the guy won them a championship, but his time has passed. Time for new blood
Lol you would make a great GM
 
Me either.

Trevor looked washed up. He could not hit receivers and under threw several balls. He just does not have it anymore. When you loose it you can’t get it back.

Best thing for Clemson is to move on. Sure the guy won them a championship, but his time has passed. Time for new blood

I see what you did there.
Barking up the wrong tree as far as the Brees spin.

Lawrence has to play well first for him to earn that though. Maybe he has and I just caught two of the worst games of his career (which happen to be the rare good competition he faces).
 
Neither

Cuz I hope my team never sucks that bad to even be in the conversation for them.

On to the analysis I like Joe but he has an unreal cast around him.

No team in the NFL has an embarrassment of riches like him at LSU. The browns are the close but not that good.

I expect some real growing pains for him in the NFL.

The kid from Clemson is gonna be a good player at the next level but he has produced with less talent and scheme than Joe has.

That might help him in the next level where nobody has great players at all skill spots.
 
Did you watch last nights game? Burrows is the man... end of discussion. Lawrence was barely 50% completion last night and couldn't hit open receivers. With a little bit of pressure his accuracy and timing is effected whereas Burrows will feel the pressure, move around and stay in the pocket and make a perfect throw or run if necessary
 

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