Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence. (2 Viewers)

I got news for you outside of two wide receivers LSU doesn’t have a lot of great talent on their own. But they do have as a lot of players who played the system great and we’re made better by a great quarterback.

Show me Anything documented, before this season, that state LSU was loaded on offense. There was not one article, one talking head, one pre-season publication, one ranking system, that had LSU loaded with offense of play makers. They did not have a receiver ranked as one of the best, a running back, tied in, or anyone else for that fact.

No one was saying LSU was loaded with playmakers and primed for a great season. Now There were people And media Who said LSU had a good receiver or two, but not the best in the country.

There’s so much wrong with this post. LSU is as talented as anyone in the country when it comes to the skilled positions. Easily top 3 for sure.
 
I got news for you outside of two wide receivers LSU doesn’t have a lot of great talent on their own. But they do have as a lot of players who played the system great and we’re made better by a great quarterback.

Show me Anything documented, before this season, that state LSU was loaded on offense. There was not one article, one talking head, one pre-season publication, one ranking system, that had LSU loaded with offense of play makers. They did not have a receiver ranked as one of the best, a running back, tied in, or anyone else for that fact.

No one was saying LSU was loaded with playmakers and primed for a great season. Now There were people And media Who said LSU had a good receiver or two, but not the best in the country.

shoot, until they brought in Joe Brady, they barely used wide receivers except to block. Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry are the top ones that come to mind in the last decade. LSU couldn’t attract top wr prospects because they were dead set on running the ball no matter what.
 
I hear Joel Klatt on a radio show last week and they were talking about this. He said Burrow by far runs the better offense but individually man against man he said that Lawrence checks more boxes for the NFL game.

Personally, I have not seen Lawrence do anything with his arm that has ever impressed me. He is not an accurate passer and he seems to only connect with open receivers meaning he has to see the receiver open before he throws the ball. He can run but he is even less accurate out of the pocket and he gets flustered. It seems his big plays have to do with him running and I just don't think you want that in your NFL franchise QB.
You haven't watched Lawrence play much then. He has a golden arm. No one cares about his running ability. He had an nfl arm in high school. He lost his first game last night for his career and you say he gets flustered. Basically your whole post is BS.
 
I got news for you outside of two wide receivers LSU doesn’t have a lot of great talent on their own. But they do have as a lot of players who played the system great and we’re made better by a great quarterback.

Show me Anything documented, before this season, that state LSU was loaded on offense. There was not one article, one talking head, one pre-season publication, one ranking system, that had LSU loaded with offense of play makers. They did not have a receiver ranked as one of the best, a running back, tied in, or anyone else for that fact.

No one was saying LSU was loaded with playmakers and primed for a great season. Now There were people And media Who said LSU had a good receiver or two, but not the best in the country.


Ok so out of last nights matchup who would
I got news for you. Outside of two wide receivers LSU doesn’t have a lot of great talent On offense. Clyde is really good and will be a good NFL player, but he is not going to be the 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd running back taken in the draft. LSU does have a lot of good offensive players who played great in this system, led by a great quarterback prospect.

Show me Anything documented, before this season, that state LSU was loaded on offense. There was not one article, one talking head, one pre-season publication, one ranking system, that had LSU loaded with offense of play makers. They did not have a receiver ranked as one of the best, a running back, tied in, or anyone else for that fact.

No one was saying LSU was loaded with playmakers and primed for a great season. Now There were people And media Who said LSU had a good receiver or two, but not the best in the country.


I know this is too early for this and he does walk on water.

I think Joe is so rare this year because he graduated and is product of a system he was allowed to study like no other QB at that level.

It is like having a player getting NFL prepared to play in the NCAA. A major advantage.

Don't get me wrong I really like the guy but I don't see the greatness at the next level without a much similar cast and great coaching.
 
There’s so much wrong with this post. LSU is as talented as anyone in the country when it comes to the skilled positions. Easily top 3 for sure.

Based on what? This year....just looked for a post from you saying this before this year and could not find one. If you can please let me know.
 
Based on what? This year....just looked for a post from you saying this before this year and could not find one. If you can please let me know.

Based on all the players that were drafted in the last 10-15 years. LSU has always recruited well. The results this past season were based on a combination of things. But LSU never lacked talent. That’s ridiculous.
 
Well this is true. Kirk said last night they use the Saints passing game. They use the same routes, progressions, match up based reads and alignments. He said that has never been done before in college as it pertains to the whole passing game. Plays from the NFL sure, Complete play book, no.

When they gave Joe the new playbook, he said Joe looked at it and was through page 14 and not one play was like anything from last year. He also said the reason coaches don’t do that is because it’s too complex.

This is my opinion only.
I think Joe was able to unleash an NFL passing Game on college defenses for three reasons. First, He is much smarter than most. He is very intelligent. Second, since he already graduated, he was able to do NFL caliber preparation. He could live, eat and sleep with that playbook. Finally, the most underrated part, Brady brought over Payton’s passing game concepts. Whatever anyone else thinks of Payton, he created the most innovative and flexible passing game the NFL has seen since Bill Walsh introduced the West Coast Offense. Since 2006 no team has had the consistent year to year production from the passing game the saints have had. Truth be told it’s not even close even if you look at the Patriots. Again, passing game only.

And the way Jeaux pulls down the ball and runs Just Like Drew is uncanny!

:hihi:
 
You haven't watched Lawrence play much then. He has a golden arm. No one cares about his running ability. He had an nfl arm in high school. He lost his first game last night for his career and you say he gets flustered. Basically your whole post is BS.

Your post is also BS

Jeff George, Jamarcus Russell, and many more had a GOLDEN arms. How did they do?

No where did I say Trevor was a bad QB, but he had more highly regarded talent around him. Yet you say you want to see what he could If he had the playmakers has. Does that make sense to you? Did you ever think for one moment that maybe Joe helped make the players around him better.

Not one person in the country would agree with you before the season that Joe had superior talent around him when compared to Clemson. Not ONE
 
Based on all the players that were drafted in the last 10-15 years. LSU has always recruited well. The results this past season were based on a combination of things. But LSU never lacked talent. That’s ridiculous.

Did not say they lacked talent. You stated very clearly that Joe’s performance was because of the superior talent he had around him. My question is why did everyone say Clemson had the superior talent before the season started. Could it be because Joe made the players better?
 
Your post is also BS

Jeff George, Jamarcus Russell, and many more had a GOLDEN arms. How did they do?

No where did I say Trevor was a bad QB, but he had more highly regarded talent around him. Yet you say you want to see what he could If he had the playmakers has. Does that make sense to you? Did you ever think for one moment that maybe Joe helped make the players around him better.

Not one person in the country would agree with you before the season that Joe had superior talent around him when compared to Clemson. Not ONE
Did they win 25 straight starts to begin their career? You know nothing about the game. NOTHING.

Where did I say anything about the talent around him? I did not say one word. Clemson has plenty of talent.
 
Did not say they lacked talent. You stated very clearly that Joe’s performance was because of the superior talent he had around him. My question is why did everyone say Clemson had the superior talent before the season started. Could it be because Joe made the players better?

You’re putting words in my mouth now. I never said such things. I simply said LSU is easily top 3 in terms of skilled players. I also said their success with due to a combination of things. It’s not complicated.
 
Ok so out of last nights matchup who would


I know this is too early for this and he does walk on water.

I think Joe is so rare this year because he graduated and is product of a system he was allowed to study like no other QB at that level.

It is like having a player getting NFL prepared to play in the NCAA. A major advantage.

Don't get me wrong I really like the guy but I don't see the greatness at the next level without a much similar cast and great coaching.

You are so correct. I said the same thing and another post that Joe had the ability to study the playbook and get familiar with it because he had already graduated. That helped him tremendously no doubt but you still have to have the intelligence and play making ability to execute it which he obviously has.

My thing is people put too much stock in a quarterback who has a strong arm or is tall, fast, can scramble. While all these things are very important the most important trait a quarterback can have is being able to consistently face pressure and not be phased by it, and still be accurate. If you can’t do this you’re not making it at the next level
 
Based on all the players that were drafted in the last 10-15 years. LSU has always recruited well. The results this past season were based on a combination of things. But LSU never lacked talent. That’s ridiculous.
Exactly. LSU has the most pros of any college. They always have talent and I say good for them.
 
Did they win 25 straight starts to begin their career. You know nothing about the game. NOTHING.

Where did I say anything ab out the talent around him? I did not say one word. Clemson has plenty of talent.

You said Joe had an embarrassment of riches.

You said Trever won with less talent around him.

Is this correct?
 

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