COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (29 Viewers)

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I posted last weekend the Global Mortality rate (GMr) of cases with outcome(see below).

I showed that last Sunday (3/29) was End of week 0 and had a 17.8% GMr; with possible incremental growth after the two previous weeks, however there was not enough discrete data points to include in the analysis other than to create the baseline.

Data at end of Week 1 is not encouraging.

Current case with outcome Global GMr is now up to 20.8% (from 17.8%), with incremental growth in 6 of the 7 days (1 day without incremental growth, Wednesday to Thursday, was flat, 19.4%, and an increase over Tuesday, 18.7%).

This is now a “possible correlation” and three weeks from being a “trend”. Next week will bear out either: 1) that there is a “strong potential correlation“ between recovery time and mortality - without factoring in outside variables like ventilator shortages mind you - that points to the deadliness of the virus is much greater than previously thought, or 2) proves to be noise, and that our ICU overrun and lack of ventilators still remain as the primary concern when looking at infection trends, with a trend line moving in the right direction.

Frankly, I shudder to think what a 5% direct mortality rate globally would look like, much less 8-10%.

Keep in mind that the ventilator shortage isnt much of a factor globally yet, hasn’t hit the US other than NY and I believe the same is for most nations (other than Italy).

And the death rates are what they are.

The triage decisions we heard about from Italy, the morbid decisions being made, haven’t begun in full and we are just now hearing of talk in NY.

Moreover, the overall mortality rate even with new cases factored in, is climbing, and Is currently 5.4% as opposed to 3.4% two weeks ago.

Instead of the curve starting to level off and ultimately move towards 1% as was predicted, the rate has increased over 2% in two weeks with no evidence of peak globally yet.

Finally, what this data tells me (and please remember I only determine rates for machinery, so there is a good possibility the equations don’t cross industries or display the same messages) is that the number of people getting sick isn’t slowing down, but the number of people recovering is. Down almost 10% of the total of cases with outcome. In other words, three weeks ago, in a week if you had 10 new sick people, 4 existing would have an outcome and thus a net of +6 cases at the end of the week. Now we are seeing only 2 1/2 cases with outcome per 10 new cases - but we are having more die by nearly double what we were two weeks ago.

Not a trend yet but I definitely wish I never would have started this. Each day I do the math and just feel like crap.

I noticed this as well. Not on the level you have but its obvious that the death rate has been increasing instead of the expected drop. I try not to bring it up anymore. But it is a major concern and has not been moving in the right direction.
 
I noticed this as well. Not on the level you have but its obvious that the death rate has been increasing instead of the expected drop. I try not to bring it up anymore. But it is a major concern and has not been moving in the right direction.

As the hospitals continue to fill up, is there any way the death rate doesn't increase? :(
 
As the hospitals continue to fill up, is there any way the death rate doesn't increase? :(

I don't see how. I also think that most of the statistical analysis was based on Chinese numbers initially. Including the mortality and case fatality rates. It doesn't appear that any conclusions can be gleaned from using Chinese data. All of the data from outside China appears to be so much worse. Either they did a bang up job with welding people into their homes or everything they reported is a complete farce.
 
As the hospitals continue to fill up, is there any way the death rate doesn't increase? :(

I would tend to think mortality rate is a lagging indicator, and will trend somewhat behind hospitalization rate. But I haven't seen some really good and current rates. Some stats are harder to track than others.
 
Buddy of mine who is a ER doc said he misses the days of treating gunshot wounds and other injuries instead of covid-19. Told me about when he saw his first covid case go bad. "This is by far the scariest thing I have ever seen and I thought I saw a lot."
 
I would tend to think mortality rate is a lagging indicator, and will trend somewhat behind hospitalization rate. But I haven't seen some really good and current rates. Some stats are harder to track than others.

That's the thing. If you look at the cases with outcomes on worldometers the case fatality rate is continually increasing. It was supposed to start going down as testing expands but it just continues to increase. At some point I'm sure it will come back down but it isnt looking good. The higher that number gets the longer it will take to come down as we find less severe cases to pull that number down more.

Maybe it's all a function of testing capacity though. Or we can hope there are so many mild infections that they aren't picked up. But it isnt fun watching that death percentage climb week after week.

CLOSED CASES
331,259
Cases which had an outcome:

261,835 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

69,424 (21%)
Deaths
 
Buddy of mine who is a ER doc said he misses the days of treating gunshot wounds and other injuries instead of covid-19. Told me about when he saw his first covid case go bad. "This is by far the scariest thing I have ever seen and I thought I saw a lot."

I am thankful in such a dense county that I live in we have so few cases and even fewer needing hospital treatment.
 
I decided I just don't have the brain power to wrap my mind around most of this. The numbers and scope don't make sense to me and I can't get them to make sense.
We're basically 3 weeks into stay at home orders here in Ohio. Today we had ~300 new cases and 17 deaths. They tell us our peak has been pushed out to late April/mid May when cases could peak at 10k a day. If we've been mitigating I just can't seem to understand how we go from where we are to where we're going to be. The 2 week lead time is really what throws me. Our cases now should be from ~ 2 weeks ago which was shortly after mitigating started so to me it feels like our numbers should drop and not go up 20x what we're seeing now. Like I say.....I've just came to the realization that I can't understand it.
 
I decided I just don't have the brain power to wrap my mind around most of this. The numbers and scope don't make sense to me and I can't get them to make sense.
We're basically 3 weeks into stay at home orders here in Ohio. Today we had ~300 new cases and 17 deaths. They tell us our peak has been pushed out to late April/mid May when cases could peak at 10k a day. If we've been mitigating I just can't seem to understand how we go from where we are to where we're going to be. The 2 week lead time is really what throws me. Our cases now should be from ~ 2 weeks ago which was shortly after mitigating started so to me it feels like our numbers should drop and not go up 20x what we're seeing now. Like I say.....I've just came to the realization that I can't understand it.

You can understand it if you realize what is happening. The current mitigation efforts are not enough. Short of a weld people in their homes scenario it will continue to spread. The spread is slower than if we did nothing but the curve hasn't been completely flattened.

As time goes on and the death count increases people will accept more and more restrictions. You can't go all draconian China on Americans without sparking civil unrest. But unfortunately it takes people losing their lives for the masses to accept more restrictions. And some still won't get it even then.
 
We're basically 3 weeks into stay at home orders here in Ohio. Today we had ~300 new cases and 17 deaths. They tell us our peak has been pushed out to late April/mid May when cases could peak at 10k a day. If we've been mitigating I just can't seem to understand how we go from where we are to where we're going to be.


One of the main problems is that people just aren't cooperating. If people would actually stay home it would start leveling off :(
 
I really don't want to address it, but at least most conspiracy theories can get some kind of rational logic out of them, How on earth do 5G towers cause respiratory illness?
 
I really don't want to address it, but at least most conspiracy theories can get some kind of rational logic out of them, How on earth do 5G towers cause respiratory illness?

Alien technology
 
I get so disheartened when I jump on Facebook... I mean I see some good things, and at least from the data I have seen we are making some headway as a nation in flattening the curve so somebody has to be paying attention, but then I see crap like this.

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Thankfully I suspect most are not crazy enough to be taken in by that... but there are a whole array of conspiracy theories out there that come off as less outlandish (they are indeed outlandish just better disguised).

There there is a whole other subset of people that are convinced our liberty is at stake and the virus is just a convenient excuse to have the deep state permanently take our rights.

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The gathering above thankfully only has 27 prospective attendees at this time . At least one is claiming to be coming armed in case the state tries to "illegally" remove them.
That whole implant chips thing is so stupid.

First, they could just put it in any of the millions of shots given already. Second, we've voluntarily chipped ourselves buying smart phones and carrying them around. Absolutely zero reason to create a scare to get this done.
 
That whole implant chips thing is so stupid.

First, they could just put it in any of the millions of shots given already. Second, we've voluntarily chipped ourselves buying smart phones and carrying them around. Absolutely zero reason to create a scare to get this done.

The whole thing is dumb from start to finish, I would find it hilarious if the thing didn't have 546 shares... the stakes are too high for for me to be laughing at the idiocy.
 
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