Star Wars 9 rise of sky walker [Spoilers] (1 Viewer)

I've said this before and I'll say it again, The Force Awakens was the best out of the new trilogy whilst the new trilogy is the worst trilogy.

I’m in total agreement.

I watched Rise of Skywalker a 2nd time, but I simply sped through the crap parts. The lightsaber fights were entertaining enough. I haven’t bothered to watch The Last Jedi Or The Force Awakens more than the one time I saw them in theaters.

Compare that to the original episodes. I’ve seen A new Hope hundreds, if not at least a thousand times. I’ve seen the Empire Strikes back even more. I’ve seen Return of the Jedi maybe a dozen times. I’ve seen Revenge of the Sith, the best of the prequels, about as much as Return of the Jedi..

I’d be upset, but I’m too busy rewatching The Mandalorian series for the third time. Yea, I know, i’m slacking..
 
What's really sad is Rougue One, TFA and Solo were the best 3 recent SW movies. I loved Rougue. TFA was pretty entertaining. Solo was a decent movie. I just don't understand how the writers as directors missed the mark so badly.

FWIW, I blame whoever was responsible for changing directors for the 2nd and 3rd episodes.
 
I’m in total agreement.

I watched Rise of Skywalker a 2nd time, but I simply sped through the crap parts. The lightsaber fights were entertaining enough. I haven’t bothered to watch The Last Jedi Or The Force Awakens more than the one time I saw them in theaters.

Compare that to the original episodes. I’ve seen A new Hope hundreds, if not at least a thousand times. I’ve seen the Empire Strikes back even more. I’ve seen Return of the Jedi maybe a dozen times. I’ve seen Revenge of the Sith, the best of the prequels, about as much as Return of the Jedi..

I’d be upset, but I’m too busy rewatching The Mandalorian series for the third time. Yea, I know, i’m slacking..

Another thing I've said is that I actually like the pre-trilogy. Also I don't think the last 2 were actually bad MOVIES but for Star Wars they were bad movies. I think I'd rather watch a Transformer movie over watching 8-9.
 
What's really sad is Rougue One, TFA and Solo were the best 3 recent SW movies. I loved Rougue. TFA was pretty entertaining. Solo was a decent movie. I just don't understand how the writers as directors missed the mark so badly.

FWIW, I blame whoever was responsible for changing directors for the 2nd and 3rd episodes.

Rogue One is in my top 3 Star Wars movie. I haven't seen Solo.
 
I'd recommend it. Some people didn't like it, but I thought it had some pretty entertaining parts. It was on Netflix for a while, not sure if still there, but it's usually on one of the streaming options.

I technically have it on blu-ray but not 3D or 4K. My blu-ray burner broke some months ago so I haven't been able to burn things like a 3D blu-ray or anything really. Now I can download some 3D movies. I'm waiting to watch Solo in either of the two I just mentioned.
 
Another thing I've said is that I actually like the pre-trilogy. Also I don't think the last 2 were actually bad MOVIES but for Star Wars they were bad movies. I think I'd rather watch a Transformer movie over watching 8-9.

Yeah, same here. Some plot issues of course, but entertaining nonetheless.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again, The Force Awakens was the best out of the new trilogy whilst the new trilogy is the worst trilogy.

About a week or so ago, I watched TFA again for the first time in a long time. I had forgotten just how pure and good that film was. It had a good, simple story; sure, some of it was rehash, but I did not mind it because the film also was meant to serve as a resetting of the story to introduce the saga to a new audience. The comedy didn't feel out of place, and I had also forgotten just how funny Finn was. It all just worked.

Then the next film just completely derailed everything, and left the third film with limited options to pick up the pieces and make sense of it all.

My biggest beef with the sequel trilogy is that it just never meshed well enough with the other trilogies. It felt more like a bizzaro-world, alternate universe story rather than a continuation of the saga. To me, the sequel trilogy should have been written in a way that made it feel like we were always leading to whatever conclusion they came up with. Instead, it just felt like a tacked on side story that made most of the previous installments moot. The Rise of Skywalker literally felt like a cheesy episode of a cartoon, where the bad guy is there "just because" and the good guys win "just because."

I also think they failed at an opportunity to mesh all the trilogies together by blending storylines and/or having OT characters in PT settings and/or have OT actors in scenes with PT actors. How cool would it have been to see some interaction between Mark Hamill, Hayden Christensen, and/or Ewan McGregor, with some creative writing? Or how about Hayden Christensen talking to Adam Driver in a scene? How cool would it have been to see Han Solo's life saved because of some sort of Darth Plagueis death cheat done by a remorseful Ben Solo?

Or, #1 of all, how about having the person this saga has been about for 6 movies prior, Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, have SOME sort of major role in the end? How in the world do you spend six movies fleshing out a character as "The Chosen One," have him fall and get redeemed, go out of your way to show him as a force ghost in youth form, then have him just completely vanish from the story and play no meaningful role whatsoever in the climax of the saga?!

Just completely missed opportunities left and right. This entire thing, this decades long Skywalker saga, has been leading up to Palpatine's random granddaughter that appears out of nowhere saving the day from her grandfather that also has suddenly re-appeared out of nowhere? Seriously?
 
Which was disappointing. I liked TFA. The last 2 were a muddled mess for the most part. I wanted to like the new characters, but the story was poorly coordinated and I just felt like this was 3 different movies, not a saga. I mean, the first 3 Iron Man movies were better than this trilogy. Heck, throwing together any 3 different movies from the Infinity saga would put the SW final trilogy to shame.

Just no longer feels like a epic string of related movies. Meh. And I'm a huge SW fan.

Yeah, it seems really clear that they didn’t have a clear story/director vision for all 3 movies.

What a terrible way to run a franchise as famous as Star Wars.
 
They really screwed up not working out the story arc ahead of time. And as others have said, the new episodes were disjointed both from each other and the rest of the series.

Aside from that perhaps the biggest sin of the sequel trilogy was getting the original trilogy stars back and then failing to write a single scene with them together. What a wasted opportunity, one they can never get back.
 
As it relates to both the prequel and the sequel trilogies, the middle film was by far the weakest. Ironically, the middle film was the best of the original trilogy.

OT - Empire, New Hope, ROJ
PT - Revenge of the Sith, Phantom, AOC
ST - ROS, TFA, Last Jedi
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again, The Force Awakens was the best out of the new trilogy whilst the new trilogy is the worst trilogy.
1/2 right 1/2 devastatingly wrong
1-3 were directing, acting, story/character/writing trainwrecks -of epic proportions and really merely exercises in state of the art tech
7-9 had flawed stories - everything else was topnotch
 
As it relates to both the prequel and the sequel trilogies, the middle film was by far the weakest. Ironically, the middle film was the best of the original trilogy.

OT - Empire, New Hope, ROJ
PT - Revenge of the Sith, Phantom, AOC
ST - ROS, TFA, Last Jedi

This is how I have it...

OT - ESTB, ANH, ROTJ
PT - ROTS, AOC, PM
ST - TFA, TLJ, ROS

I think Attack of the Clones is a very underrated and overly-criticized film. While it had the cheesy romance scenes and such, and Hayden Christensen had that annoying teenager vibe throughout the whole movie, the film really advanced the story, connected a lot of dots, delved deeply into the central conflict without overbearing us with politics, put, like I talked about before, PT characters into OT settings like Tatooine, put PT characters into contact with OT characters like Anakin dealing with the sand people and Jawas or he and Padme visiting the Lars family. And, to top it off, it had what I think was the greatest 15 to 20 minute stretch of the entire Star Wars Saga, starting with the entire Battle of Geonosis, where we got our one and only glimpse of an entire Jedi squadron going to work on bad guys, followed by finally getting to see how in the heck would Yoda function in a light saber battle. Ironically, that incredible 15 to 20 minute stretch was preceded by the most cringe-worthy 5 minutes of the saga's history, the factory scene, but still, I enjoyed the movie as a whole.

For the ST rankings, I thought the trilogy started great, but then fell off of a cliff and just got progressively worse. As explained before, I thought TFA was awesome. I hated The Last Jedi, but at least the plot and pacing were coherent and it was a good action flick - I just hated the storytelling/narrative choices. TROS though was just cartoonish foolishness that had no business being green-lit to be a part of the official saga story, and REALLY brought the entire series to a climax that was not only not satisfying, but did not serve the entirety of the 9 episode saga well at all.

As I said before, did we really build up all this canon, the rise and fall of Anakin, and an entire Skywalker family saga just for the conclusion to be that a random granddaughter Palpatine had that no one knew of would kill her dead grandfather that popped back up into the story for unexplained reasons out of nowhere, with motivations that change throughout the film and make hardly any sense? Say what?!!!!
 
As I said before, did we really build up all this canon, the rise and fall of Anakin, and an entire Skywalker family saga just for the conclusion to be that a random granddaughter Palpatine had that no one knew of would kill her dead grandfather that popped back up into the story for unexplained reasons out of nowhere, with motivations that change throughout the film and make hardly any sense? Say what?!!!!
This right here all day long.
 
1/2 right 1/2 devastatingly wrong
1-3 were directing, acting, story/character/writing trainwrecks -of epic proportions and really merely exercises in state of the art tech
7-9 had flawed stories - everything else was topnotch

I completely disagree on 7-9. The issues with those 3 is much deeper than flawed stories. Everything else was not topnotch. TLJ was fraught with poorly timed punch lines and attempts at humor that were try hard cheesy moments. It made me cringe more than laugh. Star Wars isn't a comedy, although a lot of episodes have some sprinkled throughout. It rarely overshadowed the story. The ones that did, to me got the worst reviews. Phantom Menance, AOC to some degree and TLJ were the worst. The most memorable films and moments were those serious, intense moments when the forces are at battle with one another.

I guess those are storytelling issues, but the directors and writers are the ones who create the overall vision for each of the trilogies, and TLJ was a jarring, almost nonsensical telling of the middle episode of what's supposed to be the bridge between 7 and 9. It felt more like a filler episode than a continuation of an epic saga.
 

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