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I think within the next couple of seasons they bring back Rob and Russel and put them on opposing teams.
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I know that I am late but have been binge-watching Survivor during this pandemic. I just finished this season. Let me say that Russell should have won both seasons. He was obviously the best player on BOTH of his seasons. He manipulated EVERYONE, won a bunch of challenges, and played the best game. Folks were just emotional at being played. SMH. He was very Machiavellian in his approach and it worked to get to the final tribal council. He was strategic almost to the point of clinical precision, he was tactical, and for them to say he wasn't social, he surely got a lot of people to do EXACTLY what he wanted them to do.
But let me just say that Jeff Probst is a jerk. He strikes me as a guy who was bullied in high school and FINALLY finds himself in a position of power and lords it over EVERYONE. He is extremely condescending and HAS to show that he is in control. It is my purely non-clinical position that he is a narcissist with incredible insecurity and self-esteem issues.
I buy every bit of what you're selling. And Sandra didn't deserve to win either title, if you are going by who played a better game. She won zero challenges, but she did tell the heroes the truth and they chose to ignore it to their peril.I've always thought Russell Hantz had a case for the GOAT despite not winning, but it's true that socially he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way to say the least. In his first season in particular he had no other choice but to play that game, which is why I found that particular bitter jury so infuriating. He was ostracized pretty early and found other players in similar circumstances to team up with as needed, most of which felt they were just using him rather than the other way around, and got himself to the end. In HvV he had an opportunity to play differently, especially when the Heroes threw him a bone, but of course he was in control on his side unbeknownst to them and if I remember correctly HvV was directly after his first season. So basically what got him to the end the first time worked again, arguably even better, and he was playing with other people that had played. Some of those people had won before so you would expect them to respect his game a little more understanding how hard it is to get there, even more so in an all-star season. The problem is that most of them got their feelings hurt and so they voted for Sandra, who for me was the least deserving of the three.
His third time he didn't stand a chance as his tribe never trusted him at all but they also knew he was capable of playing a high level game from the position so they threw that challenge to vote him out pre-merge and then the wheels fell off for all of them, which I admit I quite enjoyed. I think throwing a challenge is absolutely stupid, particularly when you have a chance to crush the other tribe so profoundly. Even if he made the merge, they almost certainly could've got him out as soon as he didn't have an idol. Boston Rob on the other side got a group of fanboys and fangirls then turned them into a Hero cult where he was the hero. So even though he betrayed quite a few people who thought they had a legitimate relationship with him it was looked at as "Oh that's just Rob being Rob making all-star moves". Rob definitely deserved to win that season but he got really lucky with the people on his tribe. A guy literally stood up during the jury interviews (it was still the old jury format) instead of asking anything lawyered for the jury not to be bitter towards Rob. That level of manipulation is definitely admirable in this game but I've always thought it took a lot of compliance from them as well, the same game with a different group of people sitting over there and he doesn't win. Coach had something similar going on in another season but because he openly brought prayer into it people turned on him.
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I buy every bit of what you're selling. And Sandra didn't deserve to win either title, if you are going by who played a better game. She won zero challenges, but she did tell the heroes the truth and they chose to ignore it to their peril.
As a side not, I din't like Parvati in either of the seasons I saw her in. But her playing Russell for the immunity idol was a pretty big deal. She basically sank the heroes battleship with that double idol play and she didn't even use one on herself. It was a genius move.
You are correct. And for the record, I think Russell is a narcissistic, misogynistic man with a Napoleonic complex but everyone whose ever won the game lied and misled people.The biggest problem with Russel's gameplay was that he never (even after multiple attempts to play the game) grasped a simple concept.
When you get to the end, there will be a group of people who you voted out of the game who are going to decide on who should win. You can't win the game without figuring out a way to convince those people to vote for you. So, when you dismiss them and are insulting to them, you aren't going to win. There is a social element to the game that is critical, and Russell denied that was important.
You are correct. And for the record, I think Russell is a narcissistic, misogynistic man with a Napoleonic complex but everyone whose ever won the game lied and misled people.
Do you think Parvati and Sandra played better games?