COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (19 Viewers)

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This is just so ridiculous. Where is the CDC? Where is the Surgeon General? Where is the president? There’s no leadership on the mask issue whatsoever.

A restaurant in Cal. is “exhausted” from having to argue with customers about masks.

 
I'm also wondering if the increased vitamin D due to sun exposure in the summer is reducing the severity of the disease. Some studies have proven that vitamin D has a pretty big impact with SARS in correlation with the severity of the case. The fall/winter months will likely give us this answer. It could just be the younger age, still a lag between tests/deaths and better treatment options but even with steroids and remdesevir the death rate should only change a little. My concern with this wave will get going in about another 10 days. That's when the transmission between the young and older populations are likely to start happening.
 
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I'm also wondering if the increased vitamin D due to sun exposure in the summer is reducing the severity of the disease. Some studies have proven that vitamin D has a pretty big impact with SARS in correlation with the severity of the case. The fall/winter months will likely give us this answer. It could just be the younger age, still a lag between tests/deaths and better treatment options but even with steroids and remdesevir the death rate should only change a little. My concern with this wave will get going in about another 10 days. That's when the transmission between the young and older populations are likely to start happening.
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All the more reason to take a Vitamin D3 pill daily.
 
I'm glad I've been taking vitamin d3 as well as ashwagandha for over a month now. :9:


I really hope it's beneficial
 
I was laughing off the border closures for the first few weeks because I'm sure I was in a bit of denial. As the situation gets worse and worse, I'm seriously worrying when I am going to see my family again.
I'm working in Australia on a work visa...this means that if I leave the country, I cannot get back in (only citizens and resident visa holders). My family is in NZ and I cannot get through that border because I am not a permanent resident visa holder or citizen although we own a farm there. My oldest son lives with my ex in North Carolina and he cannot get into NZ or Australia for a visit.
Conversely, my wife and son in NZ cannot come to Australia due to the restrictions. Because NZ has gone down the "elimination" route regarding COVID and done a decent job, they are not going to open the borders...some officials saying until mid-2021 (a year from now!).
I hoped one possible solution was that we could all go separately to the US to see my oldest son, as my wife and youngest could get back into NZ as they are citizens and would just have to deal with a 2 week quarantine. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to get back into Australia...:-(
The whole situation is all forked up and the bumbling response in the US is just making things worse.
 
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Gilead announces pricing structure for Rendesivir. US taxpayers helped fund the research and now Gilead is charging US insurers 30% more than the rest of the world.
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Heard that on CNBC this am.

$390 a vial for Medicare/Medicaid ( Govt type insurance ) and $520 for private insurance.
 
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Gilead announces pricing structure for Rendesivir. US taxpayers helped fund the research and now Gilead is charging US insurers 30% more than the rest of the world.
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I'm reading up on it. It has a lot of side effects. Some are potentially fatal. I personally wouldn't take it unless I had a severe case.
 
rt.live is a pretty cool website for COVID tracking

put together by Instagram founder and Dr. Gottlieb. iirc
 
It's not just Trump (though, of course, he's a major factor). WHO and CDC and Fauci were actively downplaying mask usage up until late March/early April. And then we had the ping-pong game among public health experts about large gatherings vs protests, further eroding trust in whatever messages come out of our leadership.

Even without Trump's disinformation, the 'adults in the room' have bungled this entire thing at almost every level.

It reminds me of Katrina, but for the whole country.
 
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It's not just Trump (though, of course, he's a major factor). WHO and CDC and Fauci were actively downplaying mask usage up until mid March. And then we had the ping-pong game among public health experts about large gatherings vs protests, further eroding trust in whatever messages come out of our leadership.

Even without Trump's disinformation, the 'adults in the room' have bungled this entire thing at almost every level.

It reminds me of Katrina, but for the whole country.
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That’s true to an extent, but the people who believe a mask ordinance is a violation of their liberty weren’t going to listen to Dr Fauchi ever. They will only listen to one person, and his position on masks has not changed.
 
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That’s true to an extent, but the people who believe a mask ordinance is a violation of their liberty weren’t going to listen to Dr Fauchi ever. They will only listen to one person, and his position on masks has not changed.
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No doubt that segment of the population exists, though I think it might be smaller than it appears online.
If you drive by the Bulldog or any other restaurant/bar along Magazine St over the last few weeks, there are not a lot of masks and I would estimate 1% of the crowd are Trump supporters.

Or the block party in Kenner that made the news this weekend after a shooting took place. It's not just MAGA that aren't on board
 
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